The ploppies look at it as a dealer's ace because they do not hit their stiff and the dealer makes a hand often with the ploppy losing. The ploppies and ignorant dealers can called it whatever they want , i just play along with them . I do not think to win at counting bj with only the technical side. The human side is also very important. I constantly check on my store and their staff with how they feel about me. They know what is up but i am not a threat .I am just a nuisance for them sometimes ,so i plan an exit at times.