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    Check out socks made specifically for hiking or running. They will probably be hand wash only but who friggan' cares.
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    Smartwool socks can be machine washed - inside out and cold water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metronome View Post
    Check out socks made specifically for hiking or running. They will probably be hand wash only but who friggan' cares.
    I'll give those a look.

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    Smartwool socks can be machine washed - inside out and cold water.
    I'll have to do some investigating here.

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    If your young and your complaining about blisters being on your feet by walking from casino to casino then I'd say, "Stop being a "Puss in Boots" and toughen up a bit." You don't want me dressing you like momma used to because I'll put you in high heels real quick.
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    What's wrong with being more comfortable? Anything that reduces pain and improves body health can increase alertness, attitude, and playing time.
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    Nothings wrong with being comfortable. Besides sometimes a little pressure is what is needed to bring out the best in a person, to make them uncomfortable. Just like the other night, I had to make and put someone in a very uncomfortable situation in a poker game in an attempt to bring out the best. Exorter wanted to hear a hustlers response, I gave him one. It may not be what he wants to hear but that's the way I feel about it in an attempt to put my best foot forward.
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    I don’t know for certain, but it appears that you have switched your argument from males must be manly and pain makes you perform better, to something about winning in a poker game. Did you make the opponent wear bad shoes? Are you suggesting that we put a stone in our shoes to bring out our best? I would disagree.

    This thread is about footwear that can improve your game and your life. Look, there are some that think that life is all a game where you succeed only by causing pain to others. I have never felt that, and I don’t think the vast majority of APs have that as any part of their goals. Our goal is to extract funds from casinos. Reducing any aggravating factors is valuable. I have NO interest in causing other people pain.
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    While I’m at it, I’d like to thank Exoter175 and the responders for an excellent, and unusual thread. I can’t remember ever seeing a thread on this subject. Having walked the Strip so many, many times over decades, I wish I had known more about walking shoes. Seriously, anything that causes pain, decreases performance, attention and energy. Even when I was young, I played until exhaustion forced me to sleep. The more you play, the closer to N0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    I don’t know for certain, but it appears that you have switched your argument from males must be manly and pain makes you perform better, to something about winning in a poker game. Did you make the opponent wear bad shoes? Are you suggesting that we put a stone in our shoes to bring out our best? I would disagree.

    This thread is about footwear that can improve your game and your life. Look, there are some that think that life is all a game where you succeed only by causing pain to others. I have never felt that, and I don’t think the vast majority of APs have that as any part of their goals. Our goal is to extract funds from casinos. Reducing any aggravating factors is valuable. I have NO interest in causing other people pain.
    Not pain. Just because a person is uncomfortable doesn't mean that they are experiencing pain. You missed the point. I had to take my buddy out of his comfort zone in order to bring out the "other" player that is in him. So much so I could almost hear his heart get ready to jump out of his chest.

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    Guess you went over my head. I'll stick to comfortable shoes. No idea what this has to do with my "momma" or "high heels".
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    No, you were confused so I attempted to clarify my response. As far as the "high heels" comment, you have an imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    If your young and your complaining about blisters being on your feet by walking from casino to casino then I'd say, "Stop being a "Puss in Boots" and toughen up a bit." You don't want me dressing you like momma used to because I'll put you in high heels real quick.
    I'm plenty tough, trust me. What I was "walking on" from Christmas into the new year would make many of you cringe at the discomfort. Its not the blisters that bother me, its the blisters popping, bleeding, etc. I distinctly remember one night pulling a 20ish hour stint "Vuxing" with other machine plays where I was in an enormous amount of pain, but keeping up with my "process". At one point I was moving across a very large floor plan casino to get to the other side to lock down a play that I was called in for by a buddy of mine when I felt the "pop" and all of a sudden my foot felt very wet. When I got home in the morning I took my shoes and socks off and my sock was pasted in "red". I took a couple days off to "heal" and went back at it again, and of course made this thread, as I don't want to run into this issue again. In all of my years of being a quad-sport athlete, I've never dealt with blisters on the "balls" of my feet before. Sure, I've dealt with blisters on my heels or on the side of my "big toe", but never on the balls of my feet.

    Also, this is a little bit more than walking from "casino to casino". That part would be fine, like if I were on FSE as an example. The issue I'm having is that I'm doing this mainly in one large "floor plan" casino with "vux" and Machine plays scattered throughout, and I'm constantly moving from one end to the other and back, and competing against 4 or 5 other guys to get there quickly, so I walk at a blazing speed to get there. Like I've said before, I'm easily putting in 5-10 miles a day and doing this about 5-6 days a week for 12-20 hour stretches.

    I think the underlying issue here, beyond comfort or discomfort, or that I'm wearing pretty worn out shoes or not wearing the right socks, is that I'm simply "overdoing it" right now. I think this is the first sign of my body starting to say "slow it down a little" and I just wasn't listening to it until it got painful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Nothings wrong with being comfortable. Besides sometimes a little pressure is what is needed to bring out the best in a person, to make them uncomfortable. Just like the other night, I had to make and put someone in a very uncomfortable situation in a poker game in an attempt to bring out the best. Exorter wanted to hear a hustlers response, I gave him one. It may not be what he wants to hear but that's the way I feel about it in an attempt to put my best foot forward.
    To be honest, the response I'm looking for from a "hustler" is, "oh I wear X shoe and Y sock because I do the same stuff you do pulling the same hours you do, and I used to have your problems". I guess I didn't make that part very clear, and that's my mistake.

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    I don’t know for certain, but it appears that you have switched your argument from males must be manly and pain makes you perform better, to something about winning in a poker game. Did you make the opponent wear bad shoes? Are you suggesting that we put a stone in our shoes to bring out our best? I would disagree.

    This thread is about footwear that can improve your game and your life. Look, there are some that think that life is all a game where you succeed only by causing pain to others. I have never felt that, and I don’t think the vast majority of APs have that as any part of their goals. Our goal is to extract funds from casinos. Reducing any aggravating factors is valuable. I have NO interest in causing other people pain.
    And that's a really valid point there. It is "tax season" so "vuxing" is in full bloom right now, so much so that my "counting" hours have hit a HUGE slump by comparison because "vuxing" is so immensely profitable when the machines are getting played and for the first time ever, I'm having a physical reaction to what I'm doing and I want to take notice of it and get it handled before it ever becomes a serious issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    While I’m at it, I’d like to thank Exoter175 and the responders for an excellent, and unusual thread. I can’t remember ever seeing a thread on this subject. Having walked the Strip so many, many times over decades, I wish I had known more about walking shoes. Seriously, anything that causes pain, decreases performance, attention and energy. Even when I was young, I played until exhaustion forced me to sleep. The more you play, the closer to N0.
    I'm certainly an "odd ball" kind of guy with the questions that I ask sometimes, but I do it deliberately with a reason behind it. In this case, I'm doing something I had never done before, trying to "VUX" an entire casino to myself for 12-16 hours a day, breaking up low points with counting sessions. As you and some others know, I've never really had a physical or mental issue before at the casino because I'm usually pretty quick to "self diagnose" an issue as it arises, like when I fall under mental exhaustion. But something like this, where I'm coming home with blisters on my feet and then having them become a recurring "theme" in my game is something I want to handle. Since I know a lot of you guys have been doing this FAR longer than I have, and many on the strip or in downtown where they were walking frequently, I honestly couldn't think of a better place to ask such a specific question, and the responses have been exactly what I needed so that I could find the absolute best shoe and sock for "my game" as silly as that sounds. You make an absolutely valid point though about pain or discomfort, because the second I force myself to "leave" due to pain or discomfort, is the instant I'm starting to "lose" potential EV to an unrelated issue relative to "my game", akin to catching the flu and having to take time off of work that you can't afford to take off.

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