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    Understaning basic Black Jack

    Hi,

    I just started learning the basics of BlackJack today.. the online Casino is doing a play/move which I dont understand/isnt logical according to what I have been reading how the game works... see attachment

    Once I click DEAL to start the game

    1. I was given a Jack & number 3 = 13 points
    2. The dealer had number 7 card and the other card is not revealed.
    3. I decided to HIT to try to get closer to 21 by getting another card. I get number 8 , now my card total 11 which is exactly 21 points which is the best score/blackjack and I WIN unless he gets 21 its a draw.

    4. Now the dealer plays he already has number 7 so he flips his second card and he has number 5 ..so 7 + 5 = 12 points...i believe he tries to reach 21 points to be a draw with me as he already lost the game at this point.. he gets an "A" of HEARTS which is 10 so automatically 10 + 12 = 22 points meaning he lost !!!! why did he take take another pick on another card to get the king while he had already lost the game ?

    shed some light please.

    want to get my basics solid

    Thanx
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    Ace is 1 or 11 for play purposes. He only had 13 - then he busted.

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    You should get a beginners blackjack book. Bootleggers 200 Proof Blackjack is a good beginners book.

    The object of the game is not to get closer to 21 than the dealer. The play you should make depends on what the dealer has up. The dealer has to stop on hard 17 or sometimes soft 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    7 + 5 + A =13

    The screen shot showed this is a ill designed program. It showed 23 instead 13.
    Yes, before the dealer took the last card he had only 13. The next card gave the 23 and he busted or lost. The dealer does not have a choice as to when he can stop. He must hit until 17 and then stop. He may hit a soft 17 (7 or 17) only if its a h17 game, and once he reaches this point he can't continue on and try to beat you.

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    i really hope you are not playing for any kind of money on this online bj game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Yes, before the dealer took the last card he had only 13. The next card gave the 23 and he busted or lost. The dealer does not have a choice as to when he can stop. He must hit until 17 and then stop. He may hit a soft 17 (7 or 17) only if its a h17 game, and once he reaches this point he can't continue on and try to beat you.

    This is the confusing part... so as per this tutorial attached.... its says a player can decide wether an ACE can be 1 or 11 ??!!! so you decide which ever favours you more or ??

    because if that the case then it makes sense from my previous post as the dealer had 7 + 5 = 12.. so he had to play again he got an ACE intead of being 23 because ACE is 11 points he made the ACE to be 1 point instead to be just 13 then he plays again to increase his chance of hitting the 17 point but unfortunately he gets a KING which is 13 + 10 = 23

    see my attachement which states you can make an ACE 1 or 11.. if I'm off correct me
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    Originally Posted by stopgambling
    i really hope you are not playing for any kind of money on this online bj game.







    no Im not.. I dont think I will ever play either.... I have tried roulette and I have a strong feeling which I have kinda proved the casino's wont let you win.. i know people talk about house edge etc etc... but the reality in the cyber world these things are rigged.. the will let you make /win maybe upto 50% of the money you have been playing with .. then its starts going down hill from there... there you come back up.. same things .. u drop.... its manipulated

    Imagine this scenario.. U bet on all numbers 0 - 36 (european version) in a roulette system EXCEPT 2 numbers are not betted on.. meaning you are betting ur money on any of the 34 numbers and two numbers will be left out.. ur supposed to WIN a double of any one bet. In other words u can bet $1 on 0 and number 1 - 15 u bet $1 u leave number 16 and 17 and from number 18 - 36 u bet $1 meaning only numbers or not betted on.... now what are the odds of the ball HAVE TO LAND on 16 & 17 to make u loose??

    I bet you in the first 15 plays the system will pick the numbers u havent bet on.. regardless of the technique u use... as I said after making some winning...they will deliberately destroy you.... but if u play in the real live casino MECHANICAL WHEELSetc etc... ur much better off !!!
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    Response above

    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    i really hope you are not playing for any kind of money on this online bj game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galacticsile View Post
    see my attachement which states you can make an ACE 1 or 11.. if I'm off correct me
    That is a common phrasing, but it's inaccurate.

    The Ace is counted as either 1 or 11, whichever is better for the total of the hand. If counting an Ace as 11 would put the total over 21, the Ace is counted as 1.

    It's not player choice, or the dealer would bust on two Aces. (We know that's not how it works, because you cannot bust on two cards.)
    May the cards fall in your favor.

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    I'm so confused by this entire thread. ???
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    Don't get to hung up on the wording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieter View Post
    The Ace is counted as either 1 or 11, whichever is better for the total of the hand.
    Not always. Some casinos where doubling is allowed only on Hard 9 thru 11 force you to elect an Ace to count as 1 or 11 when you double down and freeze that value at that point. So if you Double A8 and catch a 2 you don't have 21, you have 11 which would lose to any pat dealer hand. (Example, Sand's Regency in Reno)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    I'm so confused by this entire thread. ???
    its a high concept thread , as soon as i run a sim I'll report back the answer...

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