Disturbing video

[Fulcanelli]

The Courts are closed due to inclement whether so the hearing for the criminal part of this case will be postponed.

Justin- I am an attorney licensed in MD and DC. Good luck, however you should be careful what you say in this forum, in public, or to any third party, about your case. You do not want to leave yourself open to the argument that you waived attorney/client privilege.

[MJGolf]

The Courts are closed due to inclement whether so the hearing for the criminal part of this case will be postponed.

Any update, Justin? And since request is POST hearing hopefully, not any issue with attorney client privilege issue. You are not waiving it by reporting by the way. Court hearings are public and open. As are their rulings. No one here is asking you to disclose confidential communication with your attorney.

[Adrianno]

The link below provides some current info on Justin's case, such as these:

"Plaintiff:	Justin Mills
Defendant:	Douglas Bilter, Kyle Shapelow, Anne Arundel County Police Department, Christopher Coulter, Giorgio Isella, Cordish Companies, PPE Casino Resorts Maryland, LLC and Jane Doe

Case Number:	8:2015cv00495"

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/mar...cv00495/307287

[JustinM]

PDF Civil Action: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8d11q9w6d...Court.pdf?dl=0

[Blitzkrieg]

I see that your requesting a jury trial and seeking $1,000,000 in restitution. I hope the jury decides in your favor.

[JustinM]

Hello Everyone,

As I post this link, I would like to remind everyone that I am not posting confidential information, these court related documents are publicly available on PACER.

So let me know what u guys think.

This is the response from the Lawyers from MD Live.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2k...ew?usp=sharing

[Norm]

Typical shotgun defense.

My dog doesn't bite.
My dog was tied up that night.
You didn't really get bitten.
I don't have a dog.

See Alternative pleading.

[Bodarc]

When the police said they needed his identity so the casino could issue a no trespassing notice, I wonder what would have happened if he told the police he needed proof of identity of everyone in the room or connected with the detention to give to his lawyer.

[Freightman]

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Hello Everyone,

As I post this link, I would like to remind everyone that I am not posting confidential information, these court related documents are publicly available on PACER.

So let me know what u guys think.

This is the response from the Lawyers from MD Live.

I have never seen a list of defenses so preposterous in my life, look at defense 12 lol.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2k...ew?usp=sharing

I'm not a lawyer, and for that matter, not a resident of the U.S. Thst being said, it appears that the statement of defence was a hurried document, prepared quickly, and generically, to get in under the wire - so to speak.

I referenced back to the original statement of claim where it is stated that you were approached by security upon leaving the restroom. Cross referencing back to the statement of defence where virtually all commentary states that defendant has no knowledge etc etc., - would this mean that the defendant had no knowledge of your activities in the restroom.

In due course, expect the statement of defence to be amended to reflect something a bit more believable, though self serving.

[Cloudstreets7087]

Here are my thoughts on this:

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. We know counting is not criminal, but as AP's we are committing a crime against the casino. We are breaking their rules of conduct within their establishment. So, when someone gets busted for counting and then tries to sue for assault, of course it's not going to be taken seriously. The casino does millions of dollars in business in that particular community. They provide jobs for hundreds of employees, they pay taxes, the employees pay taxes, they make political contributions, etc, etc. AP's are not contributing to any of these things. Matter of fact, we look to avoid these things at all costs. So, don't act surprised when a judge laughs at your civil suit. Unless a security guy beats the livin' crap out of you, you won't get anywhere.

Just accept that as an AP, you are playing outside the rules. If you get busted, you get busted. Take it like a man. Don't be all injured and start crying lawsuits.

[Norm]

You're not going to get much support for that post here.

[KJ]

Here are my thoughts on this:

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. We know counting is not criminal, but as AP's we are committing a crime against the casino. We are breaking their rules of conduct within their establishment. So, when someone gets busted for counting and then tries to sue for assault, of course it's not going to be taken seriously. The casino does millions of dollars in business in that particular community. They provide jobs for hundreds of employees, they pay taxes, the employees pay taxes, they make political contributions, etc, etc. AP's are not contributing to any of these things. Matter of fact, we look to avoid these things at all costs. So, don't act surprised when a judge laughs at your civil suit. Unless a security guy beats the livin' crap out of you, you won't get anywhere.

Just accept that as an AP, you are playing outside the rules. If you get busted, you get busted. Take it like a man. Don't be all injured and start crying lawsuits.

Bullshit! "Crime against the casino"....what crime? Thinking?

Casinos don't want any patrons who think. They want drunk, uniformed, players, methodically playing through there funds until the house edge eats it all up. For once I would just like to hear them admit this.

But I do believe casino's have a right to protect themselves in some manner, so I am completely ok with the 'cat & mouse game' that we (counters) are forced to play here in Nevada involving backoffs and barrings. But THAT is the limit to how they can protect themselves. Back-roomings, and illegal detentions are not permissible by law. They have no right to detain a player who has not broken the law and casino security people making $10, $12 bucks an hour are not real law enforcement (many times they are actually real law enforcement rejects or wannabees).

In Nevada we have made great strides in this area in the last 15 years, because of the challenges and cases brought against casinos that overstep and abuse their authority. Backroomings and illegal detentions have become rare, almost completely a thing of the past. We (AP's) owe much of this progress to one man, Mr. Nersesian, who has fought many of these cases.

The rest of the country with newer jurisdictions involving gaming, like Maryland, are not quite up to speed. They haven't figured out that they don't have the right to abuse players simply for thinking and winning, but they will find out as cases of abuse and mis-use of power make there way through the systems.

As per Justin's Maryland case, while obviously I am not legally educated, it appears to me, the attorneys representing the casino are just going through the motions. Although this is probably new to them, they can look at precedent from cases in Nevada and elsewhere and should see the writing on the wall. At this point they are just stalling and filing motions and responses that won't work, just hoping that the plaintiffs run out of money and are unwilling to pursue forward. It appears they have lost that gamble with Justin.

I expect as time closer to a real court case, you'll see them start making some settlement offers. Hang in there Justin!

[KJ]

You're not going to get much support for that post here.

Obviously, I was writing my response when you posted, so I didn't see it until afterwards, but I have to say...good call on that one. (probably one of your easier predictions)