Two casinos - which is better?

[RS]

So there are two casinos in my area that I frequent, and was wondering if anyone could share some light on which one might be better for blackjack. I already have a feeling which is better, but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts or reasons for which would be preferred. I'll mention similarities and differences between the two.

= similarity
- bad (at least I think so)
+ good (at least I think so)
bold = part of the game/rules, not bold = environment/dealers/PBs

Similarities:
=Both are double deck, $25 minimum.
=BJ is 3:2
=Hit soft 17
=Double any 2 cards
=US Peek
=Double After Split (except A's)
=Both casinos are just as far of a drive from home
=Both casinos are open 24/7


Casino A:
-Resplit (except A's).
-No surrender
-Penetration ~66%
+Never crowded, usually 2 or less other players at the table
+Dealers don't talk much, they let me concentrate...and I don't know any dealers or PB's (I guess they think I'm weird or something?)
+Much smaller than casino B.
-Barely get anything for comps, PBs are oftentimes doing their own thing not paying attention (could be good, too?).
-If a mistake is made by the dealer, they fix it, then take/give/push as necessary, then shuffle (basically "how it should be").


Casino B:
+Resplit (A's allowed).
+Late surrender available
+Penetration ~75% or slightly less.
+Dealers and pit crew openly admit to allow counters, since "they usually don't do it properly and lose money", and sometimes the dealer would even say the count outloud (spot on to what my count was, too).
-Dealers talk a lot, oftentimes annoying, obnoxious, and it doesn't help that I know half the dealers and PB's there (I can't ignore them).
-Tables are ALWAYS packed, oftentimes hard to find a table.
-Players are literally R.E.T.A.R.D.E.D themselves, and freak out when someone does a borderline play (usually like hitting a 12v2 or something).
+Dealers and PBs are super friendly - always get good comps.
+Usually if a mistake is made, the PB will tell the dealer to pay everyone (even if they already busted), then shuffle (if dealer makes a mistake at all, I get paid no matter what....well...usually).
-They close/open tables/pits when necessary to keep the tables as crowded as possible (at least, that's what I've experienced). 10am, 4am, 11pm, 3pm: whether it be a tuesday or a friday, it's always just as busy.




I think the benefits at Casino B are nullified by the fact that it's oftentimes hard to find an open seat, let alone an empty table. And that even though Casino A doesn't have as good of rules, the environment allows for faster/more hands, without as many ploppies yelling at me because "you never hit a 12 against a 2 because a 2 is a bust card!!!".



And of course, if there's anything I'm forgetting, I'll post here...or if you have any questions or clarification. I'm just curious as to what you guys think in the matter of "what out ways what".


~RS

[Meistro123]

try casino b right after it opens, might find some empty tables. basically scout b for times when it has empty tables. i would definitely play at both.

[RS]

Edited that into the original post.

They're both open 24/7. Casino B seems to be always just as crowded, whether it be 11pm on a friday with all 4 pits open, or a tuesday at 6am with half of a pit open. They open/close pits to keep as many as players per table as possible. =\

[Shoofly]

ploppies yelling at me because "you never hit a 12 against a 2 because a 2 is a bust card!!!".

Wow. If they get excited about a proper BS play, they will probably have heart attacks when you introduce index plays. Just ignore the comments as if they weren't there. As Norm says, "There are other players at the table?"

Personally, I would try very hard to find the best times to play Casino B.

[BJGenius007]

So there are two casinos in my area that I frequent, and was wondering if anyone could share some light on which one might be better for blackjack. I already have a feeling which is better, but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts or reasons for which would be preferred. I'll mention similarities and differences between the two.

= similarity
- bad (at least I think so)
+ good (at least I think so)
bold = part of the game/rules, not bold = environment/dealers/PBs

Similarities:
=Both are double deck, $25 minimum.
=BJ is 3:2
=Hit soft 17
=Double any 2 cards
=US Peek
=Double After Split (except A's)
=Both casinos are just as far of a drive from home
=Both casinos are open 24/7


Casino A:
-Resplit (except A's).
-No surrender
-Penetration ~66%
+Never crowded, usually 2 or less other players at the table
+Dealers don't talk much, they let me concentrate...and I don't know any dealers or PB's (I guess they think I'm weird or something?)
+Much smaller than casino B.
-Barely get anything for comps, PBs are oftentimes doing their own thing not paying attention (could be good, too?).
-If a mistake is made by the dealer, they fix it, then take/give/push as necessary, then shuffle (basically "how it should be").


Casino B:
+Resplit (A's allowed).
+Late surrender available
+Penetration ~75% or slightly less.
+Dealers and pit crew openly admit to allow counters, since "they usually don't do it properly and lose money", and sometimes the dealer would even say the count outloud (spot on to what my count was, too).
-Dealers talk a lot, oftentimes annoying, obnoxious, and it doesn't help that I know half the dealers and PB's there (I can't ignore them).
-Tables are ALWAYS packed, oftentimes hard to find a table.
-Players are literally R.E.T.A.R.D.E.D themselves, and freak out when someone does a borderline play (usually like hitting a 12v2 or something).
+Dealers and PBs are super friendly - always get good comps.
+Usually if a mistake is made, the PB will tell the dealer to pay everyone (even if they already busted), then shuffle (if dealer makes a mistake at all, I get paid no matter what....well...usually).
-They close/open tables/pits when necessary to keep the tables as crowded as possible (at least, that's what I've experienced). 10am, 4am, 11pm, 3pm: whether it be a tuesday or a friday, it's always just as busy.




I think the benefits at Casino B are nullified by the fact that it's oftentimes hard to find an open seat, let alone an empty table. And that even though Casino A doesn't have as good of rules, the environment allows for faster/more hands, without as many ploppies yelling at me because "you never hit a 12 against a 2 because a 2 is a bust card!!!".



And of course, if there's anything I'm forgetting, I'll post here...or if you have any questions or clarification. I'm just curious as to what you guys think in the matter of "what out ways what".


~RS

I think you should be playing in casino A in the next 3 months then when you returns to casino B, you come back as a new person, an absolute a$$hole not talking to anyone, including ploppies, pit boss and dealers. That way you can have 100% correct index plays without others' influences. Later you might spread words that you have lost a big chunk of money in a trip to AC or LV. That changed you. The problem is that even casino B is better, you have established a wrong persona there. You need to fix it.

[Ouchez]

A is the PLAY, at least for now. Play with SKILLZ,-- dig???

Ouchez

[RS]

Oh no, I just made a long post and somehow it all got deleted, so I'll sum it up as quickly as I can:


First off, thanks for the input guys.

shoofly:
I like that quote, haha. I think if I come back in several months when all the dealers/PBs get changed around, I'll be fine.


BJGenius:
Unfortunately I'm still 20 and will be for a little while, so I can't really "go to vegas", but I can figure something out. Thanks
I can play the "stfu don't talk to me" card fairly well...I've just been so used to "trying to blend in", that it kinda hurt me since they all know me now.


Ouchez:
I'm not really sure what you're saying, play with skillz..??


Tthree:
That's pretty much my thoughts on the case. Unfortunately, Casino A has three DDs, one SD, and four 6Ds, so there's not much availability to back count or table hop, let alone hop pits.


Overall, it's annoying how Casino B dealers/players will ask me 3-4 times "are you SURE you want to hit that 12v2??", or players begging me not to hit it. I can't believe I survived when I hit my 12v4 with an ice cold count a few weeks ago (and of course I busted after everyone begged me not to). I also think Casino B's only "good time" would be around 5 or 6 am....which is fine by me, but it's not so easy with friends/family being all weird about me gambling.

Thanks for the tips, and hopefully when I come back in several months I'll be able to hit Casino B hard and be able to tell people to STFU and ignore them.

[BJGenius007]

BJGenius:
Unfortunately I'm still 20 and will be for a little while, so I can't really "go to vegas", but I can figure something out. Thanks
I can play the "stfu don't talk to me" card fairly well...I've just been so used to "trying to blend in", that it kinda hurt me since they all know me now.

I did not tell you go to Las Vegas. I told you to disappear for 3 months then come back a new person who doesn't talk. Let this be a lesson for other APs. Being AP means you have to be an a$$hole not talking friendly to dealers or ploppies.

Hope your counting skill is not as bad as your reading comprehension.

[blueefficacy]

I did not tell you go to Las Vegas. I told you to disappear for 3 months then come back a new person who doesn't talk. Let this be a lesson for other APs. Being AP means you have to be an a$$hole not talking friendly to dealers or ploppies.

Hope your counting skill is not as bad as your reading comprehension.

How are friendliness and AP incongruous? Just because you're obviously an a--hole (judging by your comment on reading comprehension) doesn't mean we all have to be. And you certainly did suggest he make up a story about how he lost money in LV or AC, which would indeed appear odd coming from someone his age. I do not see your alleged comprehension fail. This young man came here for advice, no need to savage him because you worded your post poorly.