I read your post in a hope to take you off ignore. I was hoping you got over whatever character flaw has you thinking everything is about you. My post was not insulting to anybody. If you are so intelligent you should know ignorant means uninformed or uneducated. I refer to myself as such as such when I enter threads on subjects I am unfamiliar with. You are really showing ignorance about football history if you think Brady and Montana played in the same era. Even the football wives see the difference in the game today versus back in the 80's. I may check back on one of your posts in another month or so to see if I live in your head to the point that you think every post is about you.
You are entitled to your opinion on anything just as I am but if you can't tell from the posts made about your comments in this thread you haven't impressed others with your knowledge of the game. You have a specific knowledge that is extensive but once you get away from that few if any agree with you. That doesn't make you wrong but it does mean you have only impressed yourself with those posts. I tried really hard to make sure my post was not directed at you but was an answer to your comments. It as directed at all the people that are too young to have realized the affect of rule changes and new innovative schemes that changed the history of football because not having lived through any of them they are ignorant of the way the average stats and exceptional stats have changed throughout history. That determines what stats are comparable. The point of the comments was how to understand what stats are comparable and what stats weren't.
Here is a link that proves the difference between the era Montana played in is far different than the current era considering QB stats. Not that the current era has only been around since 2004-2014, that is 11 seasons and the preious era Montana played in was 1978-2003 which is 26 years. The NFL has added a few teams in the more recent years so a few more QBs put up stats. Of all the years that precede the last 2 eras only 10 QB single season completion percentages make the top 260 (47th, 102t, 121, 175t, 203t, 210t, 221t, 243t and another tied at 243). That is what you need to know about how to view the single season completion rate stats in the link below:
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...gle_season.htm
The 26 year era has Montana played in which represents over 70% of the years since 1978 has (Stats in the link from before 1978 not included in below stats:
3 of the top 10 (30% representation for the era that represents over 70% of the seasons that span the 2 eras)
7 of the top 25 (28% representation for the era that represents over 70% of the seasons that span the 2 eras)
28 of the top 100 (28% representation for the era that represents over 70% of the seasons that span the 2 eras)
By Year in the top 260 single season QB completion percentage:
1920-1939: No QB position as we know it.
1940: QB position is born but not used by all teams
1950: QB position has become the standard in the NFL. Ironman football was no longer required so you could have a separate offense and defense if they wanted. This made for the start of specialization at various positions.
1953: 1 (102t)
1957: 1 (175t)
1963: 1 (221t)
1966: 1 (243t)
1971: 1 (243t)
1973: 2 (203t, 210t)
1974: 1 (98)
1975: 1 (121)
1976: 1 (47)
1978: 1 (185t)
M-----------------------------------------Montana (14 seasons in the NFL)
1979: 1 (210t)
1980: 2 (107t, 128t)
1981: 2 (147t, 210t)
1982: 3 (2t, 141t, 170t)
1983: 5 (47t, 107t, 159t, 170t, 203t)
1984: 5 (37t, 105t, 121t, 151t, 221t)
1986: 3 (185t, 243t, 243t)
1987: 1 (45t)
1989: 2 (5, 194t)
1990: 1 (164t)
1991: 6 (76t, 88t, 107t, 128t, 199t, 249t)
1992: 5 (47t, 76t, 102t, 128t, 146)
1993: 4 (11, 25, 170t, 231t)
1994: 7 (4, 107t, 128t, 151t, 210t, 229t, 249t)
Montana-------------------------------------------M (7/47, 14.9%, ranked in the top 260 all-time during Montana's 14 year career are his)
1995: 7 (43t, 101, 128t, 147t, 170t, 185t, 243t)
1996: 4 (28t, 147t, 159t, 203t)
1997: 1 (28t)
1998: 3 (185t, 185t, 231t)
1999: 2 (94, 249t)
B===========================Brady (15 seasons in the NFL)
2000: 7 (28t, 117t, 164t, 203t, 210t, 221t, 221t) (Brady played in only 1 game)
B----------------------------------------------------Brady as a starting NFL QB
2001: 6 (16, 71, 121t, 141t, 203t, 203t)
2002: 10 (12t, 31t, 47t, 60t, 147t, 231t, 243t, 249t, 249t, 249t)
2003: 11 (42, 85t, 95t, 141t, 151t, 170t, 176t, 210t, 221t, 231t, 249t)
2004: 12 (8, 9t, 31t, 56t, 56t, 63t, 82t, 85t, 128t, 138t, 199t, 249t)
2005: 11 (27, 34t, 35t, 43t, 82t, 105t, 107t, 185t, 203t, 210t, 221t)
2006: 12 (21t, 88t, 95t, 107t, 117t, 117t, 185t, 194t, 221t, 229t, 231t, 231t)
2007: 17 (12t, 14t, 33, 53t, 56t, 85t, 88t, 98t, 115t, 121t, 138t, 141t, 151t, 164t, 210t, 231t, 231t)
2008: 15 (34t, 40t, 45t, 65t, 72t, 82t, 88t, 95t, 98t, 151t, 159t, 199t, 210t, 231t, 231t)
2009: 14 (2t, 14t, 20, 26, 51t, 65t, 72t, 93, 102t, 107t, 176t, 176t, 231t, 249t)
2010: 12 (24, 60t, 68t, 70, 72t, 72t, 107t, 151t, 194t, 210t, 210t, 221t)
2011: 8 (1, 21t, 60t, 76t, 158, 170t, 194t, 199t)
2012: 13 (17t, 17t, 39, 76t, 76t, 117t, 128t, 128t, 164t, 185t, 185t, 231t, 249t)
2013: 14 (7, 17t, 21t, 34t, 51t, 53t, 121t, 138t, 141t, 151t, 164t, 176t, 176t, 194t)
2014: 20 (6, 9t, 40t, 53t, 56t, 65t, 68t, 76t, 88t, 115t, 121t, 121t, 128t, 128t, 159t, 164t, 176t, 176t, 176t, 249t)
Brady============================================= ==B
(9/175, 5.1%, in the Brady's 14 years as a starter (2001-2014) ranked in the top 260 all-time QB season are attributed to Brady)
When you remove both Brady's and Montana's contribution to the top 260 during their careers as a starter (both 14 years at this point), 4.2 times as many QB seasons made the top 260 from the Brady's era (166) than Montana's era (40). The visual of the above season completion percentage stats for the entire history of the NFL should be easy for anybody to see that Brady and Montana played in very different eras and Montana played in a different passing era than his predecessors. You can draw the boundaries wherever you like. Not only is Brady's era way over represented but it is heavily weighted toward the top end of the 260. Only in the bottom half does the more than twice as many years being before the spike right when Brady's career started does it start to make up some ground but it is still way under represented.
The same kind of skewing exists in all the passing stats. Like I said there is no comparison of stats from one era to the next. Not even season completion percentage for QBs which is immune to influence by number of games in a season. If you lived through both it was obvious to anyone paying attention. If you were to young to remember or absorb what happened pre-2000 in the NFL and/or don't know much about football history you may think stats from one era are comparable to stats in another. I think we can all agree after looking at the stats here that they can't be. It is really obvious and the closer you look at the details the more obvious it becomes. I think I have proven my point. Everyone is free to disagree with me but I doubt there will be many that remain in that camp after seeing the evidence. It is overwhelming.
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