I swear the last twenty times I've been to my home casino I've only won about twice! But, when I go up to, say Reno, I clean up. Anyway, I'm thinking about changing my home casino to another place. Has anyone done this? It's just so weird that this is happening.
TIA.
Last edited by BigJer; 08-28-2014 at 08:12 AM.
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From your post, my guess is you are playing a 6D H17 without LS and mediocre pen (4.5/6) at a tribal joint in the state west of Nevada.
N0 for this game using a play all approach with HiLO full indices and a 20;1 spread, is 47,000 rounds. With a 50:1 spread, N0 is reduced to 33,000 hands. With mediocre pen and poor rules, the only feasible way to play is wonging unless you have the bankroll to spread massively.
Long losing streaks are not uncommon with poor rules and mediocre pen. If you look at N0 for your Reno game its likely under 15,000 rounds, much easier to get into the long run.
If you can find a dealer that gives better than the house cut, say 1 deck cut off, the 20:1 spread will produce a N0 of 27,000 rounds which is more tolerable.
Thanks guys.
I'm thinking about changing because of just a change of venue. The other casino is nicer, etc.
But the place I currently go to knows I'm counting but doesn't care. But, lol, if I change it will give me the chance to polish my act for counting. Anyway I'm going to the other place for a while and see what happens.
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I thought you were going to a different casino because you were tired of losing at your "home" casino. That's odd for you to say that they know your counting but don't care, seems like your cover is already blown as well as your face being marked. If you were beating the daylights out of them and winning I'm sure they would care then. You can probably expect the same results at the other casino, what difference is it going to make by driving further just to play the same game? Other than a change of venue.Originally Posted by BigJer
That's funny. My initial thought was also along these lines, but you guys beat me to it. I actually have 28 'home casinos'.That being places that are in my regular rotation that I hit multiple times per month. I do have one very local place, within walking distance, although I always have someone drive me, that I frequent at least 4-5 times a week, some just to eat, some to watch sporting events.
A thought about this, "they know I am counting and don't care" statement. There are very few casinos that truly 'don't care'. There are some that will tolerate you if you remain in their tolerance level and don't make too big a nuisance of yourself, but "don't care" is a whole other issue. Perhaps they don't care because they are cheating you and KNOW you are playing a losing game.That's doubtful though. Just a thought.
I don't want to insult you, but there is also the possibility that they don't care because you are playing a losing game (neg EV). But what is more likely is that they don't care because you have been losing. Many places take that route and are tolerant while you are losing, but if they really know, you are counting, they will pull the plug on you as soon as you start to win. Kind of a 'let you lose, but won't let you win it back' mentality.
I have to drive a couple hours to any casino that i would want to play at. I think the first one is about an hour and a half drive. I certainly wouldn't call that my home casino. It may have the best rules and by far the best pen of any casino I can drive to but the rest of everything that affects your winning sucks. This year the casino I am killing every trip is the farthest one away. The rules are great and the pen is so-so but I know when to find the other things I am looking for. That is the hardest part. It sucks to drive a ways only to find conditions aren't worth playing. You either leave without risking the crappy conditions or you take a high risk shot which can be very costly. All the other casinos besides the closest one are about 2 hours or so away so calling this one the furthest is misleading yet true. The casinos are in various directions but many I don't visit I haven't scouted in a while. Maybe the next trip I don't find what I am looking for I can do some overdue scouting and possibly find another gem. I have surprisingly good results at another casino this year that I don't visit much. I am not sure if it is just short term variance or another great opportunity. The place is crowded but my play will clear out my table quick there. Most of the players leave the first move I make they don't like. Just a couple familiar faces from my travels will play with me there. Fortunately most of the time they aren't there. They are used to my play and know that I know what I am doing even though it seems to defy what people expect.
I think most places should know I am counting but none do anything about it. I play just low enough for whatever casino I am in to be tolerated. I am helpful to the pit and leave before winning too much in a sitting. That amount varies by casino. Most are okay with wins of $2-3K or so. I do what I can to make myself look like I am not betting with the count and I don't visit too often. Most casinos have shown me that I have left their comfort zone before taking any action. I take the hint and leave and then adjust my play accordingly after an appropriate absence. So far they have tolerated me at all the casinos I visit, assuming they know I am counting. My winning runs have attracted additional scrutiny a few times but s far no action after I made some adjustments. I just don't think they can figure out what I am doing. Eventually that won't matter and action will be taken but so far so good.
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