European No hole card 8 deck game with REKO

[ferenc11]

HI Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls!

My name is Frank. I have recently joined this community because of the same reason probably as you guys did. Blackjack.
The problem is here in Europe that it is slightly more difficult to hunt down a good game with good conditions. Not like in U.S.
There are plenty of casinos over there. Unfortunately the place where i live is a tiny little island (Malta) with only three casinos to play at.
It is a great holiday destination as well by the way.
(I fly out frequently to other countries, because i travel alot)
They only provide ENHC 8 deck game which is really tough to beat. You need to employ big bet spreads obviously.
The rules of this particular game is quite correct:
NO burn cards at all, 75% penetration( sometimes even more because there are some sloppy dealers), double after split allowed, you may split 4 times, you may double on everything!, no Surrender, S17, no aces Resplit.
I count in REKO as you may have guessed it by now. (quite successfully in 6 deck games using the Index table from Norm's book Modern Blackjack I.)

My question is : Does anyone have or know the REKO, ENHC 8 Deck Index tables for non-U.S. games with European No Hole Card?

Thank you very much!

[bjarg]

The ENHC way of dealing is not important in itself.
Whats important is to know what happens when the dealer gets a BJ.
Do they take doubles and splits?
Or original bets only?

Can you describe the way they shuffle?
What are the table limits?
Heat?
Can you spread big?

[ferenc11]

If the dealer gets BJ, all the doubles and splits will be taken away. They would take your original bet as well. If you have BJ and the dealer shows an Ace they ask you if you want EVEN money.
If the dealer deals blackjack to herself in the and it is considered a PUSH. There are two tables. (Portomaso Casino) table minimum: 5 euro- 250
and on the other one it is mimimum of 10. max bet is 500 euro. There is no heat at all since there are a lot of tourists losing money. They keep coming and going.
Once me and my friend walked away with almost 800 euro. But i was using very low bet spreads. Nobody asked a thing. They are not bothered because the game may be beaten very difficult. You can spread as much as you like. Noone cares. Honestly. What did you mean about shuffling?

[bjarg]

Can you write to [email protected]?

[ferenc11]

I did.

[Blitzkrieg]

But if the dealers up card is an ace in ENHC the dealer does ask the players for Insurance correct? How are the players splits and doubles handled when the dealer up card is an ace and they insure their bet?

[bjarg]

You still lose your doubles and splits.

[Jabberwocky]

Do they bank any Spanish 21 games?

[DSchles]

But you never split or double vs. Ace in ENHC.

Don

[bjarg]

Yes.. many people dont realize that the sole fact of the dealer not taking a hole card doesnt have any effects on the game.
I know many games where they take a hole card and that the player will still lose all against a BJ, and many ENHC games that play with OBO.
I even know hybrids (lose all against BJ when dealers upcard is a 10, and OBO when its an A).
ENHC is usually associated with player losing all against BJ, but with today games (non US) describing a game as ENHC means nothing at all if you dont specify what happens against a dealers BJ.

[Meistro123]

This is a semantic point but I consider ENHC to be a varient of no hole card blackjack where the dealer takes all splits and doubles in the event of a blackjack, whereas OBO (original bet only) is another way to play blackjack without a hole card. And there are other varients of course, busted bets only etc.

[UK-21]

Yes, I think it's pretty safe to assume that ENHC games are the house sweeps up all double-downs and splits where the dealer pulls a snapper, unless stated to the contrary. I thought that the only place where the dealer takes "original and busted bets only", where they don't have a hole card to check, is down under. Is anyone aware of any other countries where this practice is in place?

[Koz84]

Yeah, ENHC goes without saying. The dealer will always take all bets, splits, doubles etc. Any variant to this would be individually labelled; OBO, OBBO, BB+1.