risk averse indice plays

[Meistro123]

is there a complete list of all hi lo risk averse indice plays? at what % of total bankroll wagered should you use these over expectation maximization numbers? would doubling 8 v 4 or 7 v 5 / 6 also have risk averse delayed onsets?

[DSchles]

See Chapter 13 of BJA3 and/or the paper by Joel Friedman that is being discussed elsewhere on the site.

Don

P.S. One INDEX; two indices.

[bigplayer]

If you have CVData you can run your own risk averse index numbers. Then re-run it with no risk aversion and compare the two sets of numbers to see the difference. Let us know what you find.

[Thirdbaseman]

See Chapter 13 of BJA3 and/or the paper by Joel Friedman that is being discussed elsewhere on the site.

Don

P.S. One INDEX; two indices.

Indices and indexes are both acceptable according to Webster's.

[Norm]

Index, indexes, and indices are all correct. Indice had a different meaning and is obsolete.

[DSchles]

Sigh. One INDEX; two indexes or indices (and not always interchangeable. You can't talk about the various "indices" of different books, for example). The singular of indices is not INDICE. There is no such word.

Don

[Jabberwocky]

I'm sure this has dramatically lowered my N0 value.

[Player1]

I ran a risk averse index for the 60 deviations that I use. This was for 6 decks with a one deck pen. In addition, H17, DAS and no surrender. Also, I use two cover players which are always stand on 16 versus 10 and never hit A7 versus 9, 10, or A. I use a hi-lo count. The risk-averse count that was derived through the index generator was a TC8 or more to double 8 versus a dealer 4. In addition, the index generator showed that I should never double 7 versus a 5 or 6 with my playing style.

[DSchles]

Some of you need to reread chapter 13 of BJA3, or read it for the first time.

Don

[Three]

Some of you need to reread chapter 13 of BJA3, or read it for the first time.

Don

Agreed. It is hard to say it is the best chapter in the book because there is so much profit in each chapter of BJA3 but I think its usefulness has the broadest appeal. And it most easily improves anyones efficiency while in the casino.

[moo321]

Don's self-promotion is completely justified. Blackjack Attack covers risk averse indexes, in morbid detail. Some of the more common RA indexes are

10 v. 10, A
9 v. 2, 7
Soft doubles
Ten splitting

tldr version: Switching 10 v. 10 to +7 gets a lot of the value from risk averse indexes.

[Three]

Isn't splitting TT more heat averse than risk averse. Pretty much every count has a high correlation to the plays. It is a matter of is the EV worth the heat.

[Shanna718]

agreed @ don.. inorder to understand more of the concept and improves your game in the casino.