Lack of bankroll

[ohbehave]

Correct, lack of bankroll isn't a fault. That doesn't even make sense to me. Everyone is welcome on this site and I have learned volumes from players that play lower limit than myself. Playing higher stakes doesn't necessarily translate into more knowledge or playing a stronger game.

There could be some difference in how people look at the bankroll. I look at it as an amount that has been saved through sources other than BJ play. The amount saved to start playing the game. I can see how some who have been playing for years might view the bankroll as a measure of success in the game. I've built my bankroll to x dollars therefore I am a good player.

I don't know what kind of bankroll ZK has, maybe nothing at all, I don't know. I thought I understood that he could play low stakes but doesn't want to expose himself, he would rather wait until he has a bankroll for bigger stakes. That makes sense to me, I think about that in my own game. My comment wasn't about ZK specifically, I don't know anything about him.

[Three]

I can see how some who have been playing for years might view the bankroll as a measure of success in the game. I've built my bankroll to x dollars therefore I am a good player.

Anyone that has built a BR from a high RoR small BR will eventually see just how lucky they were to pull it off. You may feel pride that you were on of the lucky few but you should realize no matter how much of the luck was created by you the vast majority of pulling it off was just luck. Luck in how the runs of wins and losses fit together. Big losses for your BR may have been preceded or followed or even bookended by big wins. If the big losses had stacked up in succession as is pretty common in retrospect a longer period of play with the larger BR they would have wiped you out.

I thought I understood that he could play low stakes but doesn't want to expose himself, he would rather wait until he has a bankroll for bigger stakes. That makes sense to me, I think about that in my own game. My comment wasn't about ZK specifically, I don't know anything about him.

It is good to wait to have a proper sized BR but the rub is without some experience dealing with the game and many parts of it that aren't counting you are more likely to make mistakes that cause you to unnecessarily lose your BR even though it is not too risky to start with. A certain amount of experience is a big plus to success once you are properly BRed. There is a proper amount of experience before you want to put yourself at too much risk or exposure at a higher BR. Save and get some experience in. Hopefully your experience will build your BR. I was one of the lucky ones. I built my BR from winnings and feel I made a lot of my "luck" but I truly understand that most of the luck that got me there was totally out of my control.

I had great mentors and listened intently and asked intelligent questions after digesting what they had told me. I learned what game conditions to avoid and seek out independent of rules. I learned how to fly under the radar while maximizing winning potential. And most importantly I learned how to maximize my abilities rather than follow what works for others. Everyone is different and have different abilities and shortcomings to adjust to or capitalize on. Sometimes you can be your worst enemy when you are not honest about what yours are. But fitting your approach to your abilities and deficiencies can maximize your potential gain.

[forecast rain]

A lack of bankroll is just that. As I began to play blackjack, I always played under funded but didnt know it. Once the knowledge came on how much money I needed to play the games I desired, I committed to never playing another hand of live blackjack until I was properly bankrolled. That time period was 5 years! I would say the biggest benefit to being a card counter for me was actually the success in my personal business which was derived from my desire to have a proper bankroll for blackjack. Until that day comes that you are properly bankrolled, I suggest seeking more education of the game along with a lot of practice.

[Nikky_Flash]

I learned what game conditions to avoid and seek out independent of rules. I learned how to fly under the radar while maximizing winning potential. And most importantly I learned how to maximize my abilities rather than follow what works for others.

Interesting ideas , I would love to hear more about these points , if you wouldn't mind elaborating on these sentences a bit for a "kinda-newbie" like myself...

[ohbehave]

I had great mentors and listened intently and asked intelligent questions after digesting what they had told me.

Did you have "live" mentoring? That is probably the most significant aspect that I'm missing and why I'm hopeful that Moo comes through with his bootcamp idea.

[Three]

Did you have "live" mentoring? That is probably the most significant aspect that I'm missing and why I'm hopeful that Moo comes through with his bootcamp idea.

Yes. A couple of the best recognized a combination of potential and teachability and took me in. I went regularly to AC and rarely played the sh*t games but got the mentoring in person. I met some pretty amazing players that blew through on various weeks with skillz that one would think not possible. From ace tracking/locating to shuffle tracking to advanced counts that few even understand. I played in Pa on the way to and from these regular AP meetings. Now I return the favor by sharing my own innovations with my mentors.

[ohbehave]

I can see how some who have been playing for years might view the bankroll as a measure of SUCCESS in the game.

Probably should have used the word KNOWLEDGE or ABILITY since the topic is more about whether the size of the bankroll is related to a person's knowledge or ability.