Dealer paying mistakes

[Three]

In Vegas you can keep it but most jurisdictions you are stealing if you refuse to comply. Vegas requires the payoff stand. They will ask for it back but can't force it. Of course you may not be welcomed back if you refuse to pay it.

Do they come rushing down the stairs to correct a mistake in favor of the HOUSE?

It is usually a phone call to the Floor who in turn asks for the money.

I was concerned about the dealer getting into trouble, that's why I made the first post in this thread. But you know what? In my job, if I make a mistake, someone may die! It may be you, it may be a dear friend or it may be me. So I can't make a mistake and I don't.

Pointing out the mistake can get the dealer in trouble as well. The house knows most people won't do that so making the mistake is the issue not whether someone caught it. If you don't point it out and nobody catches it the dealer is just fine.

With this conduct of the casinos you guys just described, if the dealer makes a mistake, sorry, I'll take the money!

That's best for everyone except the casino.

[RS]

Funny dealer error that happened some time ago. Dealer was brand new, first day dealing blackjack, the whole-shabang. For starters, she gave a player $100 in red chips at a $25 table when the player bought in for $100. Next, she tried to take my 12 against her 14, then I told her she had to hit the 14, I guess she forgot she had to hit to 17.

The error that comes to mind is when, a player asked for his double-down card to be dealt face down. He was on 3rd base. Dealer is showing a 7, flips over a T underneath (hard 17), draws a 5, and starts paying the 3rd base player. He immediately points at her cards, about to say "You shouldn't have hit on 17" or something like that. Immediately, I pointed at the player's cards, interrupting the 3rd base player, and said, "You need to flip his double-down card over [face up] before you pay him." Lady at third base was giving me the "shush" (finger on lips) sign, and was probably about to blow a gasket if anyone mentioned the dealer shouldn't have hit the 17.

[Three]

When I was playing the really bad dealer that I like to play. A guy joined the table with me and 1 other person . The first round he was there I got a mispay. The third round the other person I had been playing with got a mispay. The new guy promptly said, "So I guess you don't have to win to get payed at this table". I had 4 figures in mispays so I just colored up and left. I don't think the dealer knew what he was talking about. The other player looked like she wanted to kill the new guy. I am not sure what happened next. I always flat bet my max bet against that dealer.

[Skull]

In Vegas you can keep it but most jurisdictions you are stealing if you refuse to comply. Vegas requires the payoff stand. They will ask for it back but can't force it. Of course you may not be welcomed back if you refuse to pay it.


It is usually a phone call to the Floor who in turn asks for the money.


Pointing out the mistake can get the dealer in trouble as well. The house knows most people won't do that so making the mistake is the issue not whether someone caught it. If you don't point it out and nobody catches it the dealer is just fine.


That's best for everyone except the casino.

Thanks for the clarifications Tthree!

[Norm]

When’s the last time the dealer said “The count is +4, you should have doubled”, and then allowed you to take back your mistake? Both sides can make mistakes. That’s part of the game. And their side has a trained dealer, high-tech surveillance equipment, computers to analyze your play and keep records on you, and tapes for later review. It’s not up to me to do both their job and my job.

[Skull]

When’s the last time the dealer said “The count is +4, you should have doubled”, and then allowed you to take back your mistake? Both sides can make mistakes. That’s part of the game. And their side has a trained dealer, high-tech surveillance equipment, computers to analyze your play and keep records on you, and tapes for later review. It’s not up to me to do both their job and my job.

I couldn't put it in a better way.

[muffdiver]

When’s the last time the dealer said “The count is +4, you should have doubled”, and then allowed you to take back your mistake? Both sides can make mistakes. That’s part of the game. And their side has a trained dealer, high-tech surveillance equipment, computers to analyze your play and keep records on you, and tapes for later review. It’s not up to me to do both their job and my job.

I don't think you make a good analogy there but thanks for the try. Your post (and many of the others) make it somewhat easier to alleviate any feelings of guilt when accepting favorable mispays.

[forecast rain]

LOL ... is this really a conversation.

Correct the dealer if their error is not in your favor, take the money if you benefit in their error.

[muffdiver]

LOL ... is this really a conversation.

Correct the dealer if their error is not in your favor, take the money if you benefit in their error.

Yes, it is a conversation for anyone that possesses even a trace of a conscience.

[VeryGood]

In my local store, dealers don't ask the money back even after realizing they made a payment error. They told me it's a waste of time. That confirmed that the eye is blind so I take any money paid in error unless the PB is watching.

[biggg]

I had a dealer not take everyone's bet after a blackjack. Two hands later he said "I guess we have some honest folks at this table since no one spoke up when I forgot to take your bets after my blackjack. I won't tell if you don't."

I am sure some of these have gone against me in the past so I take the money every time and I will actively look to get mispaid if I see its close. I simply don't play against the same dealers often enough to be honest.

[hitthat16]

Dealer errors are great! I almost always accept them and keep quiet. Some of the coolest ones I've had include:

Paying me 2:1 on a winning normal hand because an extra chip got stuck to the other one.
Dealer sloppily and obviously flashing that he had 19. I had 18 so I took a hit, and drew a 3.
I've been paid twice on tied 21s. Funny error cause it's impossible for the house to pay money after they reach 21.
Multiple color up errors in my favor, usually resulting in an extra chip of whatever value. For example black chip when coloring up $95.
Playing heads up and dealer deals an extra hand (valued at 20) to an empty spot. Pit boss says I can match my bet on that hand. Won an extra mid sized bet due to that.
On the other end, not getting dealt an extra hand when I put two bets out. Dealer gave me the choice to pull my bet back. I had 18 against 10 and since I know that's a negative EV matchup I pulled my bet back. Dealer had 19.

These really help out EV, and it's not our job to protect their games.

[HowMany]

When a dealer pushes chips in my direction, I stack them.

And I keep my cakehole closed.