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    High-opt 1

    Hi im an just above average blackjack player, just finished reading lance humbles book, the worlds greatest blackjack book, and was wondering if anyone could reccomed any books that goes into more detail about learning the high-opt 1 system?would be greatful for any help. Thanks

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    "The worlds greatest blackjack book" is as good as you can get. Most AP are very secretive of their systems.

    If you can master that book, it should be enough for you.

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    That book is 40 years old and Hi-Opt 1 is not a good choice of systems for today's game. The industry standard count is High-Low which has a very high betting correlation. If you want more power (but requires more work) then you should consider the Zen Count. Three relevant books you MUST read are

    1. Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong (The Kindle Version is expanded) but the "real" version is easier to use for reference
    2. Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder
    3. Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger

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    I would add modern blackjack or blackjack blueprint to the list as well. I didn't find Zen that difficult to learn, but hi lo is probably the better choice. Depends on your goals, but hi lo would make counting two tables at once or shuffletracking more realistic, and if you ever would consider joining a team there's a good chance you will be required to use hi lo.

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    It doesn't matter how old the book is. The system is solid and kicks ass in SD and DD games. You can throw away some if not most of casino plays/advice in the book.

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    Thanks for all your replies, realised it was a bit dated as soon as i saw single deck and four deck games reffered to more often than not, still a pretty interesting read though, so in your opinion do many players still use the high opt 1 system?

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    Hi-Opt I is not popular these days. Hi-Lo and KO are by far the most popular.
    "I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse

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    BTW, using your e-mail as a handle isn't particularly wise. We can change it if you wish.
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    I'll add, People who use Hi-Opt 1 Use it specifically so that they can add Multi-Parameter Side counts to it. Hi-Opt I with a side count of 7's and Aces is an extremely powerful count system for playing pitch games if your brain can handle it. People who use such a count often revert back to High-Low for shoes and just use the Hi-Opt I index numbers.

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    Would be greatful if you could

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    Just post the name you want here. All your previous posts will be renamed.
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    pick something cool and BlackJacky, like , Jimmy_Aces , Lightning_McBlack or Johnny_Kings
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    I... Like most everyone on this site started with hi-Lo. I read as many books and got my hands on as much information I could find. Trying to find something a bit more accurate for the sd games I play, I tried to become comfortable with a new count system. I found that hi-opt I was the easiest transition from Hi-Lo, but was effective enough for handheld games. Since then I have graduated to hi-opt II and also zen. It is important to understand that the gains are very small when graduating to more difficult count systems. Use something that you are 100% accurate. Counting should be the least important thing on your mind while you are playing.


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