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    I dont understand your example.
    Why does this player have so many bets at each tc?
    Why does he bet $40 at both +1 and +2?

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    If the program defines units as min bet then you know that the unit used in the final data is min bets not what we call units. You can't argue with the program's definitions. They are fixed. That doesn't mean you have to use that as what you call a unit. We choose to have the unit indicate how you bet with advantage not what you bet when you don't want to bet anything but feel you must bet something. The latter definition of unit is of little use when ramping bets to an advantage. The statement of the OP illustrates this perfectly. Look at Bjarg's example. Do both of these players need a BR of $5,000? I think that is insufficient for either one. Spreading $5 to $50 then $5,000 might be enough.

    Using the two common definitions spouted for a minimum BR, 1,000 units or 100 max bets, we get:

    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    Player A:

    0 or < - $5
    +1 - $200
    +2 - $400
    +3 - $600
    +4 or > - $800

    This players unit is $200.
    Min bet as a unit: $5,000 BR required
    Pro unit: $200,000 BR required
    100 max bets: $80,000 BR required

    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    Player B:

    0 or < - $5
    +1 - $25
    +2 - $50
    +3 - $75
    +4 or > - $100

    This players unit is $25.
    Min bet as a unit: $5,000 BR required
    Pro unit $25,000 BR required
    100 max bets: $10,000 BR required

    I hope this illustrates why pro's choose to refer to min bet as min bet and reserve the term unit for a more useful definition.

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    it's due to opposition bets in more neural counts and cover.
    He varies his bets in a seemingly haphazard way in neutral counts and can't always decrease or increase his bets optimally, so he ends making differently sized bets in the same count.
    Life's true face is the skull.” - Nikos Kazantzakis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    I hope this illustrates why pro's choose to refer to min bet as min bet and reserve the term unit for a more useful definition.
    Yes, thanks Tthree!
    Life's true face is the skull.” - Nikos Kazantzakis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull21 View Post
    it's due to opposition bets in more neural counts and cover.
    He varies his bets in a seemingly haphazard way in neutral counts and can't always decrease or increase his bets optimally, so he ends making differently sized bets in the same count.
    I hope it's not you who is playing like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    I hope it's not you who is playing like this.


    OK bjarg, but assuming you were such a crazy guy, what would you consider your unit bet in this case?
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    don't get why there's so much unit argument. a unit is what you bet at .5% adv- plain and simple. no matter what my spread is, i have a 5 unit max bet and everything under that is in units or fractions of units for - counts.
    big dog in charge

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