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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull21 View Post
    You said yourself in one of your previous posts that "TKO is so weird", so why not change your count?
    I shouldn've been more clear to say , "TKO is so weird to set up in a simulator / software " my fault ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull21 View Post
    And what is the relation of TKO and COB anyway?
    TKO is just short for : True Counted , Knock Out , the relationship is COB is a book / COB stands for "The Color of BlackJack", written by Daniel Dravot that came up with and demonstrates an easy way to True Count the Knock out system because of the difficulty prior with the unbalanced counts for TC calculation ... it works well in play and is simple... people just write COB on the forum to save time .
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull21 View Post
    but doesn't TKO combine the disadvantages of both unbalanced and balanced systems?
    no .. TKO doesn't change tag values or balance the count at all . it stays unbalanced but is more powerful than straight KO without adding difficulty , actually after reading COB I feel like I understand the whole game better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skull21 View Post
    I mean, if you can't simulate your play, you are blind and that is a risk by itself, isn't it? Possibly even negatively compensating any excess EV you may get with this count. ...
    I'm not going in blind , I'm going in slightly blurry, I know what the SIMS say for KO and COB in general for the ramping I use , I take what COB does and add about triple the index numbers ... in reality , I don't think 20 more index plays adds too much in the short term, so I have a good idea of what my numbers will be. What I'd like to see is COB with the max bet a little higher in the TC than what it is ... like RC at 30- 32 , see how that changes things... but other than that, I trust the author of COB to have tweaked his system to the best it can be , I not going to worry that I don't have an exact simulation in front of me, I've must've read about 6 or 7 blackjack books by great professionals, much of the material involving KO count and COB -and not one author slams any of it as Voodoo, in fact many authors agree that COB/TKO is a powerful system , personal help from great mentors , and because the books have so much information in them that I'm well studied , and prepared . Of course , in the future, when I get to Double Deck games that pay 3/2, I plan on stepping up to a better system, a level 2 perhaps, Ace-side, also easier to sim , and work out the kinks - but I was ready to go out this year and win , I'm not going to switch for shoe games , and I wanted to play this year - and can't switch while I'm playing for real , and for me I think : 6D shoe games aren't worth switching to level 2 , IN MY OPNION - Don't FLAME me for this comment everyone please, this is my opinion------------, I gave it some thought and planning , so I stuck with this for the time-being.
    Last edited by Nikky_Flash; 06-07-2014 at 06:18 AM.
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