Asking player's card at the cage

[BJNewbeeNoMore]

I know different casinos have different $ values when to ask players card or id when you cash in your chips.

Assuming you're not even close to a CTR, what do they look at or key in at the cage when they swipe your player's card?

[bigplayer]

At $3,000 (sometimes $2,500) they track your cashouts at the cage for their Multiple Transaction Log. (MTL). They are also making sure you don't have any outstanding markers.

[DM21]

Some places will require ID or players cards for $1000 (yellow) or higher chips.


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[BJNewbeeNoMore]

Thank you bigplayer and DM21 for your responses.

Does it matter if you do several transactions of $1,900 (limit is 2K) or one shot 8K or 10K? Either way you'll get asked for the players card.

Does this info get tied up to your color up at the table?

[21forme]

In Vegas, I make it a point to request purples when coloring up and never cash out more than 3K. It's just too much hassle, otherwise.

[Three]

Does this info get tied up to your color up at the table?

There are two purposes for asking for card or ID. One is for multiple transactions and the second is to make sure you should have those big chips by checking with the pit. They can refuse to cash large denomination chips if you were never issued them by any of their pits. it makes it harder for thieves to steal large denomination chips from p[layers or the casino. Well harder to cash them and discourages the theft of.

[BJGenius007]

At $3,000 (sometimes $2,500) they track your cashouts at the cage for their Multiple Transaction Log. (MTL). They are also making sure you don't have any outstanding markers.

The casino I visited often uses cameras to follow players from the table to the cage if he or she got a purple chip or higher. This is how casinos track players these days. Very tight.

If you only win $900 or less, you can request black chips so you can cash the chips any time. Otherwise, your picture will be on the archive if you did not go straight to the cage. It is how they know a random player has exceed $3000 a day limit and request more info when they cash the chips that put them over the limit.

[Tarzan]

I had that happen to me at a Native American Casino. I was at the window cashing out (after playing unrated) and they wanted ID. I was startled since the amount was only a few thousand and I was used to cashing out much larger stacks of chips at cashier windows without ever being asked anything at all. I refused! What I told them nearly word per word was, "Nobody asked for any ID when I was buying all these chips but now suddenly it's an issue? I will avoid cashing out anything if that's the case and believe me, everyone on this entire planet is going to hear about this incident and how you refuse to buy back your own chips!" The clerk informed me that they were just following procedure (which was obviously the case or this joint was singling me out for some abuse, one or the other) and the line was building behind me. I explained that I was doing nothing illegal to warrant needing my ID but if they felt I needed to produce some ID or that I was doing something illegal, I wanted them to call the police. I stood my ground and ultimately they cashed my chips. That was a learning curve for me.

That incident of long ago was weird and now I try to be more cognizant of procedures in individual establishments. In some places they don't even bat an eyelash over anything less than 10,000 and in others they go to DEFCON3 over a couple of black chips showing up at the window!

[mrcharlie]

I might add that exchanging smaller bills for larger ones at the cage might cause a request of ID or player's card. I had an experience once at a HL cage, where the cashier asked for my ID in order to photocopy scan it, when I wanted to exchange my 25 $20 bills for 5 $100 ones. Apparently, it is a "policy."

[Exoter175]

Same exact thing happened to me mrcharlie, and this was after I asked them if they could exchange 50 $20 bills for 10 $100 ones, and they told me there was a limit of 500 for the exchange. In hindsight though, this is (according to my banker friend) a protocol in place almost specifically for fraud/counterfeit prevention, as the Casinos are one of the LARGEST counterfeit targets in the world.

[BJNewbeeNoMore]

I might add that exchanging smaller bills for larger ones at the cage might cause a request of ID or player's card. I had an experience once at a HL cage, where the cashier asked for my ID in order to photocopy scan it, when I wanted to exchange my 25 $20 bills for 5 $100 ones. Apparently, it is a "policy."

I would just put my $20 bills into a slot machine, print ticket, and take to a machine. Those normally spit out hundred dollar bills. Works better than dealing with the cage.

[ohbehave]

Take the slot ticket to the cage. You can't count on the ticket machine to always give 100's a lot of times I end up just getting my 20's back

[Exoter175]

Take the slot ticket to the cage. You can't count on the ticket machine to always give 100's a lot of times I end up just getting my 20's back

That sometimes depends on the total value of the ticket, I've done the whole 20's in a slot, cash out, collect thing, it just takes a bit longer than exchanging them at the cage. As far as the machine value though, if you cashout with 100, its almost a certainty of getting 20's. But if you cash it for 500-1000 it "should" give all 100's unless the machine is low.