11 VS A red sevens index play

[Banjoclan]

Hi,

In a 6D H17 DAS LS game BS says to double 11vA (wizard of odds). Playing a red sevens count when should I hit rather than double? I found this post but in the thread it seems to be a little all over the place. http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambl...llustrious-18/

[seriousplayer]

Hi,

In a 6D H17 DAS LS game BS says to double 11vA (wizard of odds). Playing a red sevens count when should I hit rather than double? I found this post but in the thread it seems to be a little all over the place. http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambl...llustrious-18/

The indices that you referred to is produce by John Auston from World Greatest Blackjack Simulations. I think they are risk adjusted indices use to compare Hi-lo, KO and Red Seven. The first indices is for S17 and the second indices is for H17. For H17 games set Red Seven IRC = 0 you hit up until you reach +4. So for +4 and high you double 11 vs A anything below +4 you hit.

[Three]

For H17 games set Red Seven IRC = 0 you play basic strategy up until you reach +4. So for +4 and high you double 11 vs A anything below +4 you hit.

Isn't it basic strategy to double 11vA in H17 6 deck games? You say to both hit and play basic strategy (double) below +4 which seems to be a contradiction.

[seriousplayer]

Isn't it basic strategy to double 11vA in H17 6 deck games? You say to both hit and play basic strategy (double) below +4 which seems to be a contradiction.

Sorry I am so use to playing S17 games. You hit when the count is below +4 when it reaches +4 or higher you double for H17 deck games. Thanks for the correction.

[Banjoclan]

If the index is so high for a 6 deck game why is BS to double?

[code red]

If the index is so high for a 6 deck game why is BS to double?

Well it's an unbalanced count for one. That is my best guess.

[seriousplayer]

If the index is so high for a 6 deck game why is BS to double?

Are you confusing the IRC set to -12 and not 0? For 6 deck H17 games red seven has to double on or after +4. I don't know what you mean by high index. The deviation is made using the running count and not the true count. Suppose one deck has been play and 5 decks remain to be dealt. Running count of +4 correspond to

TC = [4-2(1)]/5 = .4

2 decks played and 4 decks remaining

TC = [4-4]/4 = 0

At three decks played you already at a negative true count so the index of +4 or higher to double on 11 v A is not high.

[Banjoclan]

Sorry, you lost me. I'm talking about a RC starting at -12.

[seriousplayer]

Sorry, you lost me. I'm talking about a RC starting at -12.

That is the problem. The indices that you list have a RC starting at 0 and NOT -12. As it is listed in the first column IRC = 0. If your start count is -12 than you will need to subtract 12 to all indices. +4 - 12 = -8. So for 11 vs A you hit up to -8 and from -8 and beyond you double.

[Banjoclan]

Ok, thank you very much for the clarification.