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    I wouldn't suggest going back for a while; at least six months to a year. Rated or not; they may recognize your appearance.

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    To go right along w the sentiment of this thread....I just got backed off a California indian casino while losing...BUT I had already made a huge comeback from being really deep in the hole. Let's just say all things considered, I almost broke even. Still sucks tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitA7 View Post
    To go right along w the sentiment of this thread....I just got backed off a California indian casino while losing...BUT I had already made a huge comeback from being really deep in the whole. Let's just say all things considered, I almost broke even. Still sucks tho!
    I think we have all been there. Earlier in my career, when I was based back east and played longer sessions, I had a number of sessions where I dug a big hole early and managed to climb out over the next several hours. Initially it is a good feeling. Not that you should really feel good about winning or losing any one session, but breaking even after being down big, just feels like a win.

    But then you realize the negatives involved. You have totally exposed yourself, showing your spread numerous times and you have missed the opportunity to 'book' a losing session, which can be a big positive for longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitA7 View Post
    BUT I had already made a huge comeback from being really deep in the hole. Let's just say all things considered, I almost broke even. Still sucks tho!
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    But then you realize the negatives involved. You have totally exposed yourself, showing your spread numerous times and you have missed the opportunity to 'book' a losing session, which can be a big positive for longevity.
    Nice answer KJ. This is where I think the saying "it is all one big session" comes into play. If you have that mindset you don't need to fight all day to make a comeback. Doing that can be the biggest problem causer for you. You are going to have swings like this and coming back in the same session REALLY looks bad. Winning half back and leaving with a big grin on your face commenting about how well you did to get some of it back accomplishes many things. You will seem to be a customer that is happy to lose a big wad of cash. You book a much needed lose to help remain under the radar. You give them a much smaller sample size to look at. If you always seem to win (remember most employees in a casino only get to see red and green as your history. A giant win looks the same as a $1 win to them) you will wear out your welcome much quicker. Only a few employees can see you are X amount ahead or behind for the year or your lifetime at the casino or how much you lost on any session. Your "one big session" will have serious swings in both directions but will show an overall climb at about EV if your put in enough time and play accurately. You have the ability to group your sessions wins and losses given these huge swings to make your history at a casino look any way you want it to. Does a smart AP choose to overexpose himself to show only wins or is he happy to keep exposure down and book enough losses to remain welcomed back for a long, long time?

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    Keep detailed records also so you remember what your doing and where your doing it.
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