Tipping dealers-worth or not?

**privador81** · 05-13-2014, 04:01 AM

I just dont get it, is it worth or waste of money
When tip goes to dealers, mayby it could prolong your life at the casino. Dealers are not so cooperative with pit bosses or higher stuff, when they asking about your game?
Or dealer giving no shit about tip or they cannot change anyway the outcome

**muffdiver** · 05-13-2014, 05:10 AM

I don't have a strict NO tip policy but I keep it at a very low level and only use it when I perceive value from it. When I was younger, that perceived value included hookups with hot looking dealers. Now it's only for other reasons.

**Jabberwocky** · 05-13-2014, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by muffdiver

I don't have a strict NO tip policy but I keep it at a very low level and only use it when I perceive value from it. When I was younger, that perceived value included hookups with hot looking dealers. Now it's only for other reasons.

YES. Such as making pay out mistakes.

**bigplayer** · 05-13-2014, 05:45 AM

Generally Not.

**biggg** · 05-13-2014, 07:25 AM

Only in hand dealt games or where dealers keep their own tips.

**hitA7** · 05-13-2014, 08:31 AM

i rarely tip....when i do, these conditions must be met:

1. i must be winning
2. tip must be small (a buck or two)
3. the dealer must NOT feel entitled to a tip

the special case, in which i put out a bet for a dealer (still small but neverthless a bet for them) is at a couple of stores where i have spotted a couple of delears that don't call "checks play" when i increase my bet and go to two hands due to me putting a bet out for them...that's all i will say here.

**VeryGood** · 05-13-2014, 09:27 AM

I regularly tip my preferred dealers in my local stores. I can get back the tips in some other ways. No big deal. It's worth it for me because the dealers seems to enjoy working with me. When in vegas I rarely tip and only when i end the session with a big win.

**ahjooma** · 05-13-2014, 09:37 AM

I always tip a little unless the dealer acts like a jerk.
it seems like a tough job.

**blondeboyz** · 05-13-2014, 11:31 AM

Tipping a dealer in my mind is no different than tipping your waiter or your barber. They are performing a service and rely on tips as part of their wages. I tip quite often during play but make it as a side bet. The dealers thank me each time for the bet and actually hope I win because they win too. I've seen dealers "mistakenly" pay me even when my hand lost. They know it and I know it.
I don't know how much "control" they may have on the cards but I was sitting at a $10 table on a cruise ship where I played every day. A shuffle came up and it was time for a new dealer as well. There was only one other player at the table and he went to the bathroom while the cards were shuffled. I chatted with the new dealer and asked if he was going to be nice to me. LOL I already had my bet out along with a tip side bet and I told him that I always treat my dealers well. He smiled and said he already knew that. He encouraged me to put a larger bet out and said that I was going to win that first hand. He then said a second time that I should believe him. It was a very point blank dealer "tell". I doubled my bet and the tip. We didn't wait for the other guy to return to the table. He dealt me a twenty and then paid me with a smile after his seventeen. Needless to say it was a very good shoe and the dealer was tipped very well.

KJ · 05-13-2014, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by blondeboyz

It was a very point blank dealer "tell". I doubled my bet and the tip. We didn't wait for the other guy to return to the table. He dealt me a twenty and then paid me with a smile after his seventeen. Needless to say it was a very good shoe and the dealer was tipped very well.

No. What you are describing isn't a dealer 'tell'. It's a criminal act. If you are comfortable with that, fine. I wouldn't be. No different than breaking in after hours and those stealing chips. You did not win them honestly and they simply do not belong to you.

I play blackjack for a living. I am an AP. I am not a criminal, nor does the fact that I make my living in a casino mean that I forget about what I know is right or wrong. My value and morals are not for sale for a few casino chips.

Jabberwocky: your answer is equally as weak.

**Jabberwocky** · 05-13-2014, 04:19 PM

Well that's your perception. I am a predator and make no apology about it.

KJ · 05-13-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

Well that's your perception. I am a predator and make no apology about it.

Well then, just club the little old lady at the slot machine in the head and take her voucher. There's no right or wrong here....only take what you can get.

**21forme** · 05-13-2014, 04:26 PM

I tip dealers in my local casinos if/when:
1. I win during their session
2. The dealer is appreciative

I don't tip in my local casinos if/when:
1. I lose
2. The dealer is an asshole
3. The dealer yells out "checks play"
4. The penetration is mediocre compared with others at the same casino

I never tip in Vegas or when I'm on the road and won't be back for months. I don't consider what the dealer does as providing service (unlike a restaurant). It's not my job to subsidize the substandard pay the casinos give them. If they don't like what they're making, let them get educated and find a better job.

Be aware that dealers are never happy with what we, as APs, think are reasonable tips. Have you ever seen other dealers playing BJ and what they tip? It's absurd - like the 50% extra from a BJ.

It's gotten back to me that dealers have called me cheap when I've won big (high 4 figures) hands at the game named after the state for which Jackson is the capital, and I tipped a black chip (or equiv in red and green). I certainly wouldn't tip more. Is it better not to tip at all in those instances? (again, this is at my local casinos where the same dealer may deal BJ to me).