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    Can anyone beat the over/under13???

    The game is a normal blackjack game with side bet Over/under13, which is dealt with CSM one2six, no rebate

    Blackjack EV: -0.17%

    over 13 EV: -6.55%

    under13 EV: -10.07%

    By card counting, TC is hardly to +3, at +3, O13 have +EV 1.55%

    Can anyone have some new method such as card tracking???

    If we can predict the picture cards i.e. 10 -valued card, bet on O13 will have 75%win

    If we know one of the 2 cards is either Ace or 2, 100% sure win for betting on U13!!! (any combinations with A or 2 must be under 13)

    Any suggestion???
    Thank You

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    Over Under 13 count is in Stanford Wong's Professional Blackjack (called the Crush Count). Arnold Snyder also has an O/U 13 count that was in his Over/Under 13 Report. OU13 is very beatable. Works best with two people, one person doing High-Low and the other doing the OU 13 count. Unfortunately most casinos require you to bet at least the same amount on your regular BJ bet as you do on the OU13 side bet and those two bets don't neccesarily correlate.

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    at my local casino, even the BJ bet is 300, you can bet on O/U 13 15000!!!
    In other words, O/U bet is independent, u can bet the max limit of OU bet no matter how small your BJ bet is

    however...card counting is useless, dealt with CSM 126...Dealer reinsert cards every hand!!!The buffer area is not enough to make a TC+3 count

    Since every Tc unit can increase +2.7% EV, it's very nice if TC =+3 up

    anyone have a good idea to beat it down?
    Last edited by Ken; 05-01-2014 at 12:59 PM.

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    Yeah...blow up the local power transformers and drive a car into the backup generator.

    Otherwise, forget it.

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