Hi Norm,

You've probably answered this question many times before (I did do a search of the postings, but didn't find the answer yet), but can you explain why you think the Zen count (latest, copyright 2005) is more powerful using the true count = running count / # decks, rather than the true edge = running count / # quarter decks?
Is it something to do with what happens when the penetration is above 75%? It seems that if you use Arnold's conversion system (multiply by 4), that it wouldn't change anything. Or maybe you're talking about an older Zen count? Thanks again for your thoughts!