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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    Alright, even if there are no APs who earn their income solely from counting cards recently. In blackjack if you find a good game with good penetration you could beat it consistently with card counting but you can't do that with craps. In games like that you will need the suitable situation to occur. What if it never occurs? Than you can't beat it in a consistent basis

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    In blackjack if you find a good game with good penetration you could beat it consistently with card counting
    I know lots of people that have trouble finding these conditions so BJ is in the same boat. The big IF must be satisfied. The art is being able to be welcomed back to those rare great games after enough play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Who says there are not? I know a few. Did you think it would be smart for them to jump up and down and declare they can beat the casino game that is not really watched because they don't know it is vulnerable. Score that up as the worst idea ever.
    Could they beat the game in a consistent basis?? I don't mean when a dealer made an error that made the game vulnerable. I mean the game itself is beatable. If so I am willing to pay money to see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    seriousplayer you are by far the biggest dumbass in this site.
    It amazes me people still take the time to answer your stupid posts.
    I don't care what you call me!! I want to get my point across and I will continue to do that. Again, I am not talking about a game becoming beatable in a vulnerable condition. I am talking about the game itself that is able to be beaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    I don't care what you call me!! I want to get my point across and I will continue to do that. Again, I am not talking about a game becoming beatable in a vulnerable condition. I am talking about the game itself that is able to be beaten.
    What if they dealt only one round of blackjack and shuffled? Your logic is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartpart View Post
    What if they dealt only one round of blackjack and shuffled? Your logic is flawed.
    I don't see dealing out the whole shoe of blackjack to be vulnerable. It is the nature of how the game is designed.
    Last edited by seriousplayer; 01-22-2014 at 04:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    I don't see dealing the who shoe of blackjack to be vulnerable. It is the nature of how the game is designed.
    Shorten this to, "It's the nature of the game" and you might have an understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarg View Post
    if the point you want to get across is that you are a dumbass then great job.
    Thank You for the acknowledgement.

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    seriousplayer, don't you have homework or band practice or something else to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    Alright, even if there are no APs who earn their income solely from counting cards recently. In blackjack if you find a good game with good penetration you could beat it consistently with card counting but you can't do that with craps. In games like that you will need the suitable situation to occur. What if it never occurs? Than you can't beat it in a consistent basis
    craps is a beatable game if a player makes the best bets in the game and yes, through dice control the game can be beaten. You will be amazed if you ever see a controller at the table but they are out there, trust me, they are out there and it is a real skill. Just like counting cards at BJ. A skilled dice controller can bleed the house on a packed or unpacked table for $1000's and muster up a win faster or as fast as a BJ player unless of course someone with a big bank in BJ who is betting $1000's per hand.
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    Lately I've been depending on the income I've been winning/making at the casinos and from the stock market, wins really matter for me no matter how small or big. Hell I'm not rich, I don't have a 9 to 5 either. I have to win at BJ, poker, and craps as if my livelihood depends on it and it does.

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    Boy this thread has taken a turn down 'stupid lane'.

    A couple things, seriousplayer and I have to say you are making a joke of your selected name. For the first 7 years of my career, I made my living exclusively from blackjack card counting. Over the last 3 years I have branched out a bit, into some supplemental methods, but 75-80% of my income is still from good old fashion card counting. I still consider myself basically just a card counter and I am proud that I make my living from this elementary form of AP. Admittedly, there aren't a whole lot of guys that are exclusive card counters left as most rely on at least a mix of other techniques, but there are still plenty that card counting plays a significant role in their AP lives. I know, because I network with a number of them.

    Now you think Ken Uston was the last player to make a living exclusively from card counting? That is absurd! Before my time, even before I was born I think, but my understanding is Uston NEVER made a living exclusively from card counting. He always had a number of things going on. I'll let RWM or some of you others that are a little more knowledgeable about Mr Uston and that era, weigh in and correct me if I am mistaken.



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    I guess it's better than being "stuck on stupid"

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