Gabby Dealer

**Bodarc** · 12-14-2013, 04:56 PM

I was playing at a casino Thursday and Friday because I was attending a seminar, therefore, I could only break away for short runs to the blackjack tables during the day. As it turned out, on one of these runs, I wound up at a 21+3 table with a well-to-do couple from Chicago, since the casino only had 2 tables open; one 2D and one 6D.

The dealer had relatives in Chicago and kept talking to the couple about it and not paying attention to what she was doing. The count kept hovering around zero but on the largest bet of the session, I had two $ 25 bets on the table. She beat me but paid me anyway. I called it to her attention and she thanked me.

A few hands later I went from one hand to the two $ 25 bets again and she passed my second bet and hit another player who had just walked up and placed a bet. I called her attention to it, she called the pit boss and he let her deal and any player who didn't like his hand could forfeit it. I got a BJ and a 14 so I forfeited the 14, which worked out nice.

A few hands later, she did the exact same thing and I had to call her on it again.

It goes against my grain not to be honest but I think if I had it to do over again, I might do the following to such a dealer:

* Take someone's advice (can't remember who exactly and I apologize) and bet odd amounts.
* Correct under payments and let over payments ride.
* Jump from one hand to two hands in an irregular manner. I don't know what the EV is but to be able to forfeit a hand at no cost must be substantial.
* If the dealer pays me for a losing hand, just shut up. How many times am I supposed to correct a dealer who doesn't pay attention to the game?
* Find out the dealer's shift and return with someone from Chicago to help things along.

This is only one of the things that happened to me on this trip. I will make another post about another one.

**Freightman** · 12-14-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bodarc

I was playing at a casino Thursday and Friday because I was attending a seminar, therefore, I could only break away for short runs to the blackjack tables during the day. As it turned out, on one of these runs, I wound up at a 21+3 table with a well-to-do couple from Chicago, since the casino only had 2 tables open; one 2D and one 6D.

The dealer had relatives in Chicago and kept talking to the couple about it and not paying attention to what she was doing. The count kept hovering around zero but on the largest bet of the session, I had two $ 25 bets on the table. She beat me but paid me anyway. I called it to her attention and she thanked me.

A few hands later I went from one hand to the two $ 25 bets again and she passed my second bet and hit another player who had just walked up and placed a bet. I called her attention to it, she called the pit boss and he let her deal and any player who didn't like his hand could forfeit it. I got a BJ and a 14 so I forfeited the 14, which worked out nice.

A few hands later, she did the exact same thing and I had to call her on it again.

It goes against my grain not to be honest but I think if I had it to do over again, I might do the following to such a dealer:

* Take someone's advice (can't remember who exactly and I apologize) and bet odd amounts.
* Correct under payments and let over payments ride.
* Jump from one hand to two hands in an irregular manner. I don't know what the EV is but to be able to forfeit a hand at no cost must be substantial.
* If the dealer pays me for a losing hand, just shut up. How many times am I supposed to correct a dealer who doesn't pay attention to the game?
* Find out the dealer's shift and return with someone from Chicago to help things along.

This is only one of the things that happened to me on this trip. I will make another post about another one.

Eventually, I would have told het to quit gabbing on concentrate on dealing - tell het you get aggravated with caress stupid errors.

**Bodarc** · 12-14-2013, 10:01 PM

Yes Freightman, I would have but like I said, I was only there for a couple of shoes because of the seminar. She was getting on my nerves. I didn't mind the talking but undoubtedly she can't talk and deal at the same time.

**Freightman** · 12-14-2013, 10:32 PM

Just tonight, a careless dealer cost me some reasonably heavy dollars - no tips for anyone and accident or not, pit couldn't back up.....happens way to often. I don't have a problem letting the pit know they pissed me off. Usually good for some bull**** concession

**Bodarc** · 12-14-2013, 10:42 PM

I did pretty well on the comps. I got a free room, four meal comps and checked with one of the pit bosses on the last day. I asked him if he could tell me about what I had lost and he checked and said "Only about $125, you didn't do too bad." I thanked him and said, "I thought it was somewhere around there but I just wasn't sure." Actually I came out a tad over $ 500 ahead. I was ratting away chips every chance I got.

I took RWM's advice and put "Comp City" on my Christmas list. I'm going to milk them for all it is worth when I learn a few tricks.

**Bodarc** · 12-14-2013, 11:07 PM

I talked one woman out of three buffet tickets. We started to go eat and neither of us had a comp. I said, "Lets run up to the front desk and ask for some meal comps, if we don't ask, we sure won't get any."

When we got to the front desk, there was a very attractive black lady who came over and said "What can I do for you sweetie?" I said, "You know what you have on your hands don't you?" She said "No, what exactly do I have on my hands?" I said "A starving first cousin and I need some meal tickets and I want to be treated just like you'd treat all of your first cousins" She just fell out laughing and said "First cousin huh?" I said "Yep, somewhere along the line you and I have to be first cousins." She laughed again and said "How many damn meal tickets do you need?" I said "Three" and she punched them in.

That is how I got three of my meal comps.

**bebe** · 12-15-2013, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bodarc

When we got to the front desk, there was a very attractive black lady who came over and said "What can I do for you sweetie?" I said, "You know what you have on your hands don't you?" She said "No, what exactly do I have on my hands?" I said "A starving first cousin and I need some meal tickets and I want to be treated just like you'd treat all of your first cousins" She just fell out laughing and said "First cousin huh?" I said "Yep, somewhere along the line you and I have to be first cousins." She laughed again and said "How many damn meal tickets do you need?" I said "Three" and she punched them in.

I like that

**Slacker13** · 12-15-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Bodarc

* If the dealer pays me for a losing hand, just shut up. How many times am I supposed to correct a dealer who doesn't pay attention to the game?

Yep and don't speak up if they pay someone else incorrectly either.

**redbuck** · 12-15-2013, 11:26 AM

Along those lines, I was playing DD and the fellow next to me spit aces, got another and split again. The dealer dealt him the cards and everyone else too (I was playing 1st base). Nobody said a word - except me, when the dealer made a hand. I informed the dealer that you couldn't re-split aces on DD, and he called the floor sup over, he wasn't sure so he made a phone call, and came back with "he can't re-split aces" on DD. Well f***** duh. I had a winning hand and got paid, and everyone else got their money back. Some of these dealers and floor supervisors are "accidents waiting to happen"...

**AussiePlayer** · 12-15-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by redbuck

Along those lines, I was playing DD and the fellow next to me spit aces, got another and split again. The dealer dealt him the cards and everyone else too (I was playing 1st base). Nobody said a word - except me, when the dealer made a hand. I informed the dealer that you couldn't re-split aces on DD, and he called the floor sup over, he wasn't sure so he made a phone call, and came back with "he can't re-split aces" on DD. Well f***** duh. I had a winning hand and got paid, and everyone else got their money back. Some of these dealers and floor supervisors are "accidents waiting to happen"...

Probably better off not saying anything if you won the hand anyway, by all means complain if you lost, but if you won anyway you had nothing to gain and while some may think there is nothing to lose, you've just pointed out that you know more about the game than the people who are running it do, which is not a good position to be in.

The other thing to consider is that after a situation like this surveillance will often pay closer attention to a table where disputes keep arising, not a table you want to be sitting at as a CC/AP.