I honestly thought the see-through discard covers were for card protection, not to stop counters.
There is no doubt unbalnaced systems are more effective than the balanced ones in certain ways. TKO and UBZ2 are definetely very powerful systems. I would also like to mention my favourite author, BRH along with his mathematical researches and very powerful unbalanced system of cardcounting.
However your suggestion to beginners to switch from HiLo to KO or TKO is incorrect. And here's why - HiLo is probably the most universal and at the same time the most powerful and yet still a simple system, having at the same time pretty high rating of comples power. One can modify HiLo quite easily into KO or EBJ2 (7+7= +1, 9+9= -1, same indexes) and use them for various conditions. If a beginner starts with KO or any unbalanced count system, you doom him with your advise to develop bad habits for deck estimation, these habits are especially valuable in ST, and if a player desires to continue mastering his skills in BJ in future, to start off with the unbalanced systems is dangerous.
Having said that, there are some interesting posts in the archives by "Kim Lee" and my good friends "alienated" about the ubalanced systems and using the formulae NRS and ST. But this is about something different. Without well-developed skills of deck estimation, one is better of not to try ST at all. Therefore, my opinion is - Unbalanced systems are harmful at the beginning stage of the professional career.
As to PE 0.51 vs 0.55, Do you imagine how many hands must one play to reveal the mathematical difference? Three years? Perhaps 10? Don't believe me? Take BJRM and check this out.
There is a good article about it in an excellent book "Blackjack Attack" by one of my favourite authors, Don Schlesinger. It says that a player with a weaker system can win more in halt a year than a player with a super-powerful system. And I think this is not to surprise, its a standard outcome. This is real life and not a computer simulations in 10.000.000 hands.
Regarding Hi Opt 2 and Omega 2 and to the writer Bryce Carlson. He is good, excellent author. But I still look with a great degree of scepticism at persons, stating they are great trackers and at the same time use a side count Ace. May I know, what formulae they use for the depleted slags? This is when a dealer takes not 26 counted cards, but 20 or 15. How many Aces are left in the slug? Is it 3? or maybe 4? or perhaps 2? How shall one continue calculating by NRS? What if a dealer is very fast?
Modified Omega 2 is a different topic.
After all this, what I wouls say to you is - its very obvous, that we are from different leagues.
"Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)
Trust me with enough reps you can keep up with the fastest dealers using any count. I can remember when a fast dealer had me slowing play down to keep up when I used a super easy count. Now I use a count so complicated I doubt there is but a few here that could do it and no dealer is too fast. I have been using this count for maybe 9 months. It took 5 weeks to even count down a couple decks correctly. A total of 2 months to be ready to start playing in a casino. Another 2 months of play to keep up with a fast dealer without slowing down play. At 5 months in it was easy to keep up with any dealer effortlessly. I do get fatigued after about 6 hours but most of the time I have hit the win tolerance goal for several casinos by then. Sometimes I have gotten my arse handed to me but that is the nature of the game. I could use a simpler system that allows me to play most of the day and still not make as much money but there are so many fun things to do in a casino town that I can now take advantage of.
Lesson in this mess. Practice drill play and repeat until you have it down in your sleep.
As for broken slugs , you don't need to know how many aces are in it. Does the HILO player know how many aces are in it? They just size their bets by the total of the aces and tens which is what an ace neutral player does. I don't see many ST opportunities in this see of ASMs in my area so I am no expert as why waste a ton of time to become a top expert with a technique you will rarely if ever use. Since I switched to the above mentioned count I couldn't imagine trying to do the ST calculations.
First, I didn't suggest beginner to switch from Hi-lo to KO or TKO. What I mean is that if one started with KO it is illogical to switch to Hi-lo. They can just modify KO into TKO if they want True Count power. If they started with Hi-lo then stay with Hi-lo.Originally Posted by Gramazeka
Second, I don't know what you mean by bad habits for deck estimation. I use TKO and I estimate my decks to half decks remaining in 6-8 decks games and quarter decks remaining in two decks or one deck games. I don't know how much I could refine my deck estimation skills any more. Perhaps, I could do my estimation to the exact cards remaining. What I did was developed my deck estimation skills at the time I master TKO.
Are you saying that TKO is not suitable for shuffle tracking even with excellent deck estimation skills.
Last edited by seriousplayer; 12-23-2013 at 10:09 AM.
As of right now I am learning to shuffle track. I've read about the NRS formula but not the Snyder simplified method in "The Blackjack Shuffle Tracker's Cookbook by Arnold Snyder". Something I plan on reading in the future. I also like the "Shuffle Tracking for Beginners" by George C because it is a simple and powerful shuffle tracking system.
What he is trying to say is that he cant discuss with you because since you dont understand the first thing about ST therefore you would also fail to understand the point he's trying to make.
And he is right. If you were a phycisist would you try to explain the details of the theory of relativity to an accountant?
So what he is saying is that you should study first, and then he will be able to explain to you why unbalanced systems are not strong for ST.
Norm, in mathematical formula unbalanced system is good for ST( I very good know posts Kim lee and alienated) . In real life- no good. It is my opinion. I am the practicing shuffle tracker and i have team.
Last edited by Gramazeka; 12-23-2013 at 11:29 AM.
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