Funny you mention this today! Brittney and I were just talking about our last rendezvous and the fun we had! We can't wait to meet up again with everyone.Originally Posted by Ouchez
To the OP I would say be careful because there are some ploppies that will say things which call attention to your play.
Something like "Oh it's a good thing you had those two big bets out for those blackjacks! How did you know they were coming?"
Life is short so hit it hard!
It's most imperative that the ploppies know nothing about your AP but the more of them that appear to be your friends, the better for your longevity. I make it a point to be seen talking and cajoling with known chronic losers at all stores that I frequent. I figure it's well worth the effort and not that unpleasant of a thing to do in most cases.
It is good to have some fallback lines for people asking you about the count or counting.
What good would it do to count the cards? They use the same number every time don't they?
The count? I am down $35.
Things like this. You can't get thrown when asked questions that try to tip your hand. You must act quickly to seem like you don't know what they are talking about. You certainly don't want to volunteer the information to anyone.
The best lesson about not talking to anyone regarding card counting in a casino comes from Ian Anderson. In his book, he describes how he was playing bj and doing well when another player jumped into his game throwing down black chips. He realized that this guy was likely another counter who may have been called in by a spotter. So, at the shuffle, he got up and left the table. A few minutes later the same player approached him as he was heading towards the elevator. The player stated that Ian was a good player and he asked if Ian counted cards. Ian denied it. The player said, "well, if you ever lose your bankroll, contact me. I can help you win." The player gave him a business card. His name was Ken Uston.
Ian never admitted that he was a knowledgeable player. What benefit would it have had in the casino? Just talking at that point with Ken Uston jeopardized his status.
BTW, did you guys really meet up with Britney Spears? The real Britney? lol!
there is a piece missing to this issue.
associating with people in the casino can be very dangerous if you run into someone who is a thief and sees your bankroll. these can be men or women and come in all shapes and sizes and ages. it is difficult to keep your bankroll out of sight.
one must keep out of harm's way. the most complete way is don't associate with anyone, don't let anyone get close to you especially when you are playing. once in las vegas a woman who was standing next to me as I was playing lunged over the table and said, "they are mine," and then grabbed many chips off the table and ran out the door of the casino as everyone stood by doing nothing.
there is the chance someone can put some sedative in your drink.
so it is a mixed bag: good to be seen with non advantage players, but dangerous to be around them and strangers.
I think a distinction needs to be made again for this thread.
There is "consorting with unknowns" in the casino, and then again, there is "interacting with non-AP's".
Big difference IMHO.
Obviously, it's prudent to be cautious in any situation where you could be robbed, taken advantage of, exploited in any way, etc. This must be especially true for AP's, who generally have much more CASH on them than average people (inside or outside of the casinos!)
But I don't think that means ya gotta be a totally isolated loner, skulking around the casino by yourself, afraid of anyone getting anywhere near you, never talking to anyone, or if someone so much as says 'boo' that you should freak out about it, LOL
AP's and "ploppies" CAN interact and -- in some cases -- be of mutual benefit to one another, IMHO.
It may be going out on a limb here, but I dare say maybe cats and dogs CAN even be "friends" if it's handled well!
It's wise to exercise caution, of course, but don't let prudence alone turn you into an azzhole, LOL
-DBJT
some further examples of what can happen:
many years ago in las vegas 2 women hung around me while I was playing. I was winning and they watched. I really think they put something in my soft drink as I got very very sleepy. I was a fool also to let them in my apartment, and I was lonely. I could not stay awake. I went to sleep and they did a grand larceny on me for a substantial sum.
recently I was winning with my chips over the table when a young woman came over to sit beside me to play. at that time I got my chips together, colored up and left the table. she looked at me and then left the table as well. a curious move on her part.
on the otherhand I hope I recently met a ploppy in a casino who is a care provider and we talked and exchanged phone numbers. she visited me in my home. we had friendly conversation. she takes care of her ill husband. I think she is ok to associate with in casino but I will not disclose my business/program to her. and I will be on my guard.
I just give these 3 examples out of many, hopefully to learn and protect.
and of course anything of a sexual or romantic nature should be definitely avoided I think that relates to the casino and playing,
as dbjt says one must differentiate, and I think err on the side of conservatism. there are many temptations. I am not optimistic that good sound relationships are likely to occur but I do not totally isolate myself.
Well whether inside or outside of the casinos, it's never a wise move to do your thinking with the 'little' head rather than the BIG head.
Mixing any manner of attractive female (or, excuse me: "member of the opposite sex" for purposes of our *few* ladies present) into the equation obviously needs a bonus scoop of caution added to the mixture!
-DBJT
just to solidify this important issue of safety I offer 2 more examples to teach myself and others.
--a friend of mine went to a gym and put his br in the gym's storage compartment with his clothing. the gym's insiders broke into it and stole the br.
--I must now be especially careful. I am in a wheel chair. last month I was going up to my room in casino hotel after playing bj. some men who were probably ok went into the elevator with me. I really got concerned. I then excused myself left the elevator and called casino security to escort me to my room. I was safer and avoided being sorry.
there are thieves in the casino, I believe, and with temptation there are those who will do us harm. we should keep the option open for casino security escort.
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