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    Playing 6 decks Entering at Mid SHOE vs Double deck

    Is 6 deck with 80% penetration and entering the game WHEN 2 decks left WITH running count OF plus 2 (High-Low)
    is better than playing DD .
    The 6 deck has better split rules and Surrender and their is only 2 decks left which is equal to 100% penetration.
    Am I missing something here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abukase1 View Post
    Is 6 deck with 80% penetration and entering the game WHEN 2 decks left WITH running count OF plus 2 (High-Low)
    is better than playing DD .
    The 6 deck has better split rules and Surrender and their is only 2 decks left which is equal to 100% penetration.
    Am I missing something here.

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    Yer don't really want an answer, do yer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abukase1 View Post
    Is 6 deck with 80% penetration and entering the game WHEN 2 decks left WITH running count OF plus 2 (High-Low)
    is better than playing DD .
    The 6 deck has better split rules and Surrender and their is only 2 decks left which is equal to 100% penetration.
    Am I missing something here.

    ELY
    It's not 100% pen because...the actual shoe has 80% pen....which means about 1 deck (slightly more) is cut-off on the 6-deck shoe. So when you enter the 6D with 2 decks remaining, you'll only be able to play about 1-deck worth.
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    Not enough info. What is the pen and rules on the 2D game? What spreads for each game? If you can spread 50-1 on the shoe game and only 6-1 on the 2D game and the pen on the 2D game is only 50%, the shoe game will be vastly superior.

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    The answer is: back count the double deck. (This should also be an insanity wolf-blackjack meme).
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    I just can't imagine being able to back count a dd game...an associate was blatantly counting with a big spread in a good dd game with no heat when someone Wonged in and out at the shuffle. The same person tried that later in the same pit and was backed off. Of course ymmv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggg View Post
    I just can't imagine being able to back count a dd game...an associate was blatantly counting with a big spread in a good dd game with no heat when someone Wonged in and out at the shuffle. The same person tried that later in the same pit and was backed off. Of course ymmv.
    As with all things: you just have to find a way to pull it off. I've wonged a lot of DD. It helps if the place is crowded, and you can move around.
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    Also helps if theres mid shoe entry. No mid shoe DD games around here

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    I Ment playing very low first 3 deck then if deck is positive their is 2 decks left to play .
    6 deck DAS Early surrender 3 splits and 2 split for A. DD is the same without surrender

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    I think what you're asking is a bit unclear to everyone. I got the impression you're jumping into a 6d shoe with 2 decks left which would be beyond silly. If you're not asking that and just asking which game you should play...I would play the 6d w surrender especially since DD games have shorter longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abukase1 View Post
    Is 6 deck with 80% penetration and entering the game WHEN 2 decks left WITH running count OF plus 2 (High-Low)
    I hope you mean a TC of +2. At RC of +2 with 2 decks left is only a slight advantage, TC +1. 80% pen on 2 deck has 1.2 decks cut off. You would be playing less than a deck at a crack, 2 decks to 1.2 decks. Don't forget to calculate time lost backcounting in the comparison. You could have played 3 DD shuffles by the time you wong in at 2 decks left.
    Last edited by Three; 11-14-2013 at 10:30 AM.

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    DD
    Also depend on your br
    Red chipping you might as well go flip buggers. Also if you are back counting all the time will you have a seat. Will the house find your behavior suspicious?

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