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[ZenMaster_Flash]

Is this the best Level 3 Count that does not utilize Side-Counts ?

"The Griffin Count"I found it ~ scouring the archives in the "Special Collections" at the University Library in Las Vegas.

As far as I know it has never appeared in print in any published books, Griffin's own included !

I would really love to see the B.C., P.E., and I.C. for this count.

Tags: Deuce to Ace, Left to Right

+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3


Any and all thoughts on this are very welcome.

EDITED: due to extreme intoxication deleted some drivel, where I said:

"I would have switched the tags for the seven (7) and deuce (2) based on the E.O.R.'s of the ranks."

[Three]

Tags: Deuce to Ace, Left to Right

+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3

You are missing the ace tag. I am assuming a balanced count which would then have to be ace neutral to maintain the balance? Although your switching 2 and 7 tags comment does't fit either as they are the same. Please correct your mistake.

[ohbehave]

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 A
+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3

If these are the correct tags it returns a negative EV when simmed

[RS]

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 A
+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3

If these are the correct tags it returns a negative EV when simmed

That wouldn't make sense because the 2 and 7 tags would both be set to +1.

Not to mention, the ace is usually the same value or less as the T.

[MidniteToker]

Tags: Deuce to Ace, Left to Right

+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3

I would have switched the tags for the seven (7) and deuce (2) based on the E.O.R.'s of the ranks.

So instead of +1 for the deuce and +1 for the seven, you'd prefer +1 for the seven instead and +1 for the deuce?

Sounds like a powerful change .

[ohbehave]

That wouldn't make sense because the 2 and 7 tags would both be set to +1.

Not to mention, the ace is usually the same value or less as the T.

And I don't think anyone would put +2 on the 8 in any system. Something is amiss.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

The silly error corrected in my post (#1)

[klyross]

"apparently he had a verrry good time."

[Three]

+1 +2 +2 +3 +2 +1 +2 -1 -3

How about:

+1,+2,+2,+3,+2,+2,+1,-1,-3,0 (page 46 TOB). PE .6916, BC .99 (with ace side count), IC .9014

[ZenKinG]

How about:

+1,+2,+2,+3,+2,+2,+1,-1,-3,0 (page 46 TOB). PE .6916, BC .99 (with ace side count), IC .9014

Uston APC lol

[ZenKinG]

if you're going to do a level 3 ace side count, Victor APC is by far the best choice. Easy tags to remember for pairing, and has a .68 PE, .99 BC with ace side count, and .89 IC