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    CVCX or CV data: Basic sim question

    I want to calculate the following to establish a baseline / foundation for tweaking my bets.

    Essentially I want determine a single big bet that would be needed to off set playing though negative expectation counts using Color of Blackjack as the counting method. When running the sim I plan to run it using basic strategy only with the goal of determining the "worst case scenario." In the end the sim will hopefully lead me to knowing what the smallest big bet would be needed to conpensate (break even) for the negative expecation time. Using this baseline I will then create a more efficient bet spread (Mutiple bets according to count) and use index playes to add to my advantage.

    Since I have never run a sim I am not sure which program will do the job.

    The variable I will be changing in the sim(s) will be table minimum bet, and number of decks and of course the big bet.
    I have the table rules that I will be using based off my most frequently visited casino.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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    Run a full blown KO Simulation with an extended bet range selected and then just play with a 1-2 spread, 1-3 spread, etc until you pass break-even. I'm not sure how to go about setting up a True Counted KO simulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    I'm not sure how to go about setting up a True Counted KO simulation.
    I not sure if any one does...well execpt norm and Brh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    Run a full blown KO Simulation with an extended bet range selected and then just play with a 1-2 spread, 1-3 spread, etc until you pass break-even. I'm not sure how to go about setting up a True Counted KO simulation.
    This is kind of like what I had in mind. I only own CV Blackjack right now so I am also wondering which product I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mushin View Post
    This is kind of like what I had in mind. I only own CV Blackjack right now so I am also wondering which product I need.
    To run a TKO simulation you will need to use CVDATA because in CVCX you can determine the optimal bet for depth based betting. If you are running a Color of Blackjack simulate it will be much easier to use CVCX 5.0. Here is how to do it using CVDATA

    Select Count tab
    Select Unbalanced True Count

    using option only if you want to fully true count KO including the indices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    To run a TKO simulation you will need to use CVDATA because in CVCX you can determine the optimal bet for depth based betting. If you are running a Color of Blackjack simulate it will be much easier to use CVCX 5.0. Here is how to do it using CVDATA

    Select Count tab
    Select Unbalanced True Count

    using option only if you want to fully true count KO including the indices.
    Thanks for this I will try it out in the demo and if it works like I want this it will be time to buy a new tool for the toolbox!

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