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    Quote Originally Posted by Math Demon View Post
    I will also treat the options account and blackjack bankroll as a unified, replenishable "speculative bank". Hitting extended positive variance will allow me to consider more aggressive higher-risk short-term options strategies, and vice versa. Being unified, each side will be replenished by the other.
    Not being a financial guy I am not sure I get this. If you mean you will resize your bets that is fine. There are thresholds in each casino that you may not want to cross for top bet, win total, spread etc. if you want to be welcomed back. I spread way beyond what I previously thought I could get away with but I still mind the other thresholds. Some players routinely play in the stratosphere I avoid and get away with it but I am not experienced with the things you need to do to get away with it. Smallcap successfully won lots of money but quickly burned his bridges. If that is fine with you then become the traveling AP not welcomed back at casinos previously exposed to. If not play so you are welcomed back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Not being a financial guy I am not sure I get this. If you mean you will resize your bets that is fine. There are thresholds in each casino that you may not want to cross for top bet, win total, spread etc. if you want to be welcomed back. I spread way beyond what I previously thought I could get away with but I still mind the other thresholds. Some players routinely play in the stratosphere I avoid and get away with it but I am not experienced with the things you need to do to get away with it. Smallcap successfully won lots of money but quickly burned his bridges. If that is fine with you then become the traveling AP not welcomed back at casinos previously exposed to. If not play so you are welcomed back.

    Hello Tthree.

    I will always be mindful of the regional-, casino- and shift-specific tolerances.

    I'm not looking for just a quick strike.
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    What I meant was: If I win a lot, the BJ BR remains the same (for a while), but I can now engage in more high-risk high-reward options strategies. If I lose a lot, I will simply replenish the blackjack bankroll from the other side, then utilize less aggressive strategies. The blackjack variance will basically dictate the level of risk I take on for the options.

    Unless the "speculative bank" takes a hit from both sides at the same time, the two components should smooth out the ride a little.
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    To NFL newbies: Please perform your own analysis. Confirm any stats presented. Draw your own conclusions.

    Handicapping is EXTREMELY hard! All statistical evidence (and game insights) may indicate strongly a specific outcome, winner, or continuing trend; but a turn-over, a missed field goal, an erroneous call, a key injury, etc. can easily change the outcome, the margins, and/or the totals. Division rivalry games and games with playoff implications are highly unpredictable.

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    That is a great plan. Sorry that I didn't get it to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    That is a great plan. Sorry that I didn't get it to begin with.

    Thanks!
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    To NFL newbies: Please perform your own analysis. Confirm any stats presented. Draw your own conclusions.

    Handicapping is EXTREMELY hard! All statistical evidence (and game insights) may indicate strongly a specific outcome, winner, or continuing trend; but a turn-over, a missed field goal, an erroneous call, a key injury, etc. can easily change the outcome, the margins, and/or the totals. Division rivalry games and games with playoff implications are highly unpredictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Math Demon View Post
    Good points, AussiePlayer. But I did have the street smarts to survive everything else.


    And with my job, investments, and options accounts, Hi-Opt II is "Plan D".

    Why did you think I can wait 6 years, then can afford to train for 6-8 months?
    Didn't mean to suggest that you yourself lack any 'street smarts,' simply that an excess of one can often mean a lack of the other.
    "One of these days in your travels, you are going to come across a guy with a nice brand new deck of cards, and this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the Jack of Spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not take this bet, for if you do, as sure as you are standing there, you are going to end up with an ear full of cider."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Oh no, not another of the never-ending which count to use threads...

    KJ - I stopped responding to (and reading many of) T3's posts a long time ago. Same old, same old...
    Bottom line, the two most important factors in selecting a game are:

    1. penetration, and
    2. game speed.

    Everything else is of minor importance, with count being probably being at the bottom (unless you're playing SD).
    I would add finding stupid crews that will let you count to this list, but you're right on. A few cards better cut, or a few more hands per hour is easily worth the gain from switching to Hi Opt 2. It's all about finding good games you can pound away at, not knowing the esoteric situations in which you split 2s vs. an Ace.
    The Cash Cow.

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    I chuckled. Valiant effort KJ.

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