Observe these people and you will find why they do what they do. It is not that hard to figure out why. Human behaviour , psychology ? They lose so we can win, can not blame anyone. Sad but true. i do not hold anything against you BIg J . I am just tellin the truth.All ploppies whine . I had one got pixx at me ,but what can I do? They lose so I CAN WIN.
Some of the smartest people often seem to lack common sense.
Ploppies don't play alone because they don't have anyone to blame if they lose. They will still blame the dealer of course but the like to spread the blame around. I n their deluded minds they would win every hand if it weren't for the others at the table. Of course they know this is not true but to play alone would destroy their delusion. To quote Frasier in Cahill US Marshall, "You must allow a man his delusions".
Most of the time I just ignore them. It depends on my mood. Usually I am in a good mood, but it I am not I will let them know "My square, my money, my decision"
I remember a long time ago when there was a particular jerk at mu table who was giving everyone **** on how they played. He was particularly mean to a new dealer who was almost in tears. I decided to get rid of him, so I stood on 9 vs dealers 10, hit 16 vs 5. It was a negative count and I had a minimum bet out. He got so mad at me for screwing up the cards and playing like an idiot (which I was) I thought he was going to hit me. He didn't he just left the table cursing me. I didn't realize it but the pit boss was watching. He came over laughing and thanked me for getting rid of the jerk. He then gave me a dinner comp. I was a red chipper at that time so I was happy.
Okay another one time story...
I was counting a shoe game, and nearing the end of the shoe. A marginal deviation play came up. This drunk guy at the table had been getting really upset with my play for a while and he himself had been losing. Think I had a 12 vs a dealers up card of a 3. (Maybe it was 13 vs a dealer 2) I don't remember now. He told me if I took a card he was gonna punch me in the face as hard as he could. Needless to say I did not take a hit.After the hand I got up from the table and discreetly told the floor what had happend. The floor person immediately went to the table and whispered something in the dealers ear. The dealer must have confirmed what I had told the floor, and within what seemed like less than a couple of minutes and during the shuffle. Two security guards and a suit showed up at the table and tossed the drunk. He was not happy basiclly kicking and screaming the whole time. Maybe not the right move. But hey I saved face.
Last edited by Solo player; 08-05-2013 at 09:30 PM.
"I think, therfore I can't play blackjack."
Arnold Snyder, Blackbelt in Blackjack pg. 229 (2005)
i do not remember where i read this but some one said he/she stay on 13 vs 10 and double a/7 vs 4 or similar play .The plop play on the same table scream as if he was robbing him of his money! that's exactly how plop thinks! LOL they truely think your bad play or change of betting spots will change the game 's outcome . It happened numerous times last week ,as they called me idiot , jerks n a-hol of course! Never challenge one's belief!!! NEVER! WE ARe truly hurting them ,yet they do not know the fact is that which play is good for them (well .u know what i mean)
Plop has blackjack. Dealer has Ace. Dealer offers insurance. Plop declines.
Dealer has blackjack. Plop raises hell since he "wasn't offered even money."
Plop argues with pit critter and dealer for next 5 minutes.
Plop says "insurance and even money ARE NOT THE SAME THING! I'm no idiot."
Normally I would leave the table, but this was high quality entertainment.
[QUOTE=HowMany;106079]Plop has blackjack. Dealer has Ace. Dealer offers insurance. Plop declines.
Dealer has blackjack. Plop raises hell since he "wasn't offered even money."QUOTE]
This guy would have a hard time at a couple of places I play. The dealers are instructed to not offer even money. They will pay it if the player asks, but they are not to offer it. This is valuable information for spreading and playing decisions, as it provides insight as to the competency level of management.
Solo,Originally Posted by Solo player
Okay another one time story...
I was counting a shoe game, and nearing the end of the shoe. A marginal deviation play came up. This drunk guy at the table had been getting really upset with my play for a while and he himself had been losing. Think I had a 12 vs a dealers up card of a 3. (Maybe it was 13 vs a dealer 2) I don't remember now. He told me if I took a card he was gonna punch me in the face as hard as he could. Needless to say I did not take a hit.
You are a big guy, and I bet you could have dropped him with one quick punch, but I don't know all the circumstances.
Best,
Ouchez
Testosterone levels seem to be elevated in gambling environments. The bravado of dropping someone in a casino is best ignored - let security handle it. NO ONE needs to feel threatened. In my view, Solo Player handled it correctly. I've had a dealer fired and a patron oermanently 86'd over inappropriate behavior (dealer issue was inappropriate racial slur)
Frequently, I am at the table heads-up, so when the horde of poppies invariably wants to join me, I warn them that I play by gut feel. If they later object to any of my plays I just remind them that they were warned, and that here are other tables available if they don't want to play with me.
Or if I'm in a bad mood, then a simple "go f___ yourself", works just fine.
Depending on the guys wealth level, it might have been positive EV to let him punch you. You can usually guess at the wealth level by his betting stakes.
The guy was lucky he just got 86'd. Threatening to punch someone is assault. He should have been arrested.
I would have probably taken the hit card. Then again, I don't get intimidated all that easily in a casino. Probably comes from the many hours I have spent at a poker table. At a minimum, stop the game and call the floor over, and then take the hit card.
[QUOTE=Shoofly;106088]Quite the same where I play, I am a regular and if I tap the table for even money and say give it to me, some of them still make me say those two magic words...."even money". They are not supposed to volunteer it unless asked for, it is much the same as late surrender, they accept it but never advertise it or mention it...lol
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