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    Don't know what I"m doing wrong with CVData & CVBJ sims inaccurate

    Hi everyone,

    I just got CVBJ and CVData.

    My counting method is Zen with 2 deck true count. I first wanted to find the indices for my counting method with CVData.

    So the game I had it run indices for was 2 deck with 60% penetration S17 DAS.

    Under the strategy setting I attached a strategy myself of zen with the proper values for the cards and to make sure that no indices showed up when i viewed display table. For true count division i chose floor. I then checked custom TC on with multiplier checked with the right multiplier for sure for each value. I choose standard for speed/accuracy and checked multi-pass(ira).

    After the report ran I got all the indices and opened up CVCX & attached a new strategy I made and plugged in the indices value from the report. After the sim ran I compared it to zen original full indices from the website and it had a higher $$/hr than the sim I ran for that particular game.... help?

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    I'll take a shot at this.
    How many indices did you use? The original Zen full sim uses a LOT of them.
    It looks like you were generating risk averse indices; RA will maximize SCORE, not hourly win. I think that the original Zen indices were EV maximizing.

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    Why are you using a two-deck true count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Why are you using a two-deck true count?
    I made a post a while back and someone suggested a two-deck true count. The reason was for a better betting accuracy since indices are more spread apart?

    To the first poster for the strategy every single indices that was generated was in the SIM as well. It actually scored lower compared to complete zen

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    I wouldn't use two-deck TC.
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    Hi Norm,

    Can you please explain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    I wouldn't use two-deck TC.

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    To get it to work well, you need a pretty complicated custom TC table.
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