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    Quote Originally Posted by 21gunsalute View Post
    So why are you here seeking advice if you're just going to ignore it? That's just plain insulting to every member here and makes you look like a fool. There's nothing difficult at all about learning Basic Strategy. It's all logical and there should only be a few plays to learn that aren't obvious. If you won't even take the time to learn BS before you play then there is no hope for you! You will be doomed to be a ploppy forever. It's not because you're stupid, it's because you're unwilling to change and do things the right way. You may be happy that you're up $4,000, but it's just because you've gotten mostly positive variance so far. Keep playing this way and you will venture into negative territory before you know what hit you.
    I am here seeking advice and constructive criticism certainly, not to be called ignorant or stupid because I am new to counting. There is a difference there.......wouldn't you agree? I have learned much already from many folks out here and I appreciate it. I will be applying as much as I can because my max amount of trips per month is probably 2 to 3. I am not unwilling to change, hence the questions I have posted to seek clarification and council so I can be better at this. Practice is the thing I need now, which has been pointed out previously. I need to grab some decks, do some reading while not and work and focused on other things. Essentially take some time to feel comfortable at the casino table for when I return. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21gunsalute View Post
    I also am having a problem believing that you're being truthful. You've stated that you're up $4,000 in the last 2 months, having played a total of 5 times. You also stated that you've lost the last 3 times, and titled this thread "Bad run of cards". Now maybe you had a couple of monster wins the first few times, but...

    And if you've won $4000 in the last 2 months then why is your bankroll only $300-500?
    One small win, one monster win, and 3 losses ($240, $500, and $540)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndaly47 View Post
    I am here seeking advice and constructive criticism certainly, not to be called ignorant or stupid because I am new to counting. There is a difference there.......wouldn't you agree? I have learned much already from many folks out here and I appreciate it. I will be applying as much as I can because my max amount of trips per month is probably 2 to 3. I am not unwilling to change, hence the questions I have posted to seek clarification and council so I can be better at this. Practice is the thing I need now, which has been pointed out previously. I need to grab some decks, do some reading while not and work and focused on other things. Essentially take some time to feel comfortable at the casino table for when I return. Thanks.
    But this is what you said previously:

    Quote Originally Posted by johndaly47 View Post
    Your 4th paragraph about ignorance or stupidity is all jacked up as well. When I signed up to this forum, I thought it was a blackjack forum, not one for NASA. Some of you guys get so uptight with the language and the percentages, etc. Anyway, I'll continue to learn this at my pace as I have some time in this life to get my blackjack play where I need it to be.
    If you wish to learn at your own pace, fine, but if you continue to keep playing before you've even fully learned Basic Strategy, expect to lose. You came here seeking advice, it's been given, and you've poo-pood much of it. That makes it sound like you're unwilling to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21gunsalute View Post
    But this is what you said previously:

    If you wish to learn at your own pace, fine, but if you continue to keep playing before you've even fully learned Basic Strategy, expect to lose. You came here seeking advice, it's been given, and you've poo-pood much of it. That makes it sound like you're unwilling to change.
    Well, we can agree to disagree then. If I poo-pood anything it was the tact in trying to explain things, leading with the adjectives "ignorant or stupid". This is water under the bridge for me from this sentence on. I will follow the advice provided and continue to learn as much as possible before my next session. Thanks

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    Bad runs are very common. I had a day in a casino when 12 times in a row when the dealer had an ace showing they had a BJ. Now the odds of that happening are pretty bad right? The next day in the same casino I had the exact same thing happen again. After 10 times I left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    Bad runs are very common. I had a day in a casino when 12 times in a row when the dealer had an ace showing they had a BJ. Now the odds of that happening are pretty bad right? The next day in the same casino I had the exact same thing happen again. After 10 times I left.
    Ok, thanks for the comment. Yeah, I figured they probably were, even with the best BS and count strategy. I would assume sometimes you just have to pick up the pieces and move on that particular time. The very first time I hit the casino last month there was I believe one BJ the entire two hours I was there. The next time there were roughly 10 of them. The last 3 times there were a handful, but the dealer drawing out with 4, 5, or 6 cards was getting mind numbing. Thanks again for the comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndaly47 View Post
    Ok, thanks for the comment. Yeah, I figured they probably were, even with the best BS and count strategy. I would assume sometimes you just have to pick up the pieces and move on that particular time. The very first time I hit the casino last month there was I believe one BJ the entire two hours I was there. The next time there were roughly 10 of them. The last 3 times there were a handful, but the dealer drawing out with 4, 5, or 6 cards was getting mind numbing. Thanks again for the comment.
    John, the count determines whether you should "pick up the pieces and move on" not the outcome of past hands. Of course if you're underfunded that's another problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    John, the count determines whether you should "pick up the pieces and move on" not the outcome of past hands. Of course if you're underfunded that's another problem.
    Great point. Both could be an issue, but if the latter one is not then as a new counter I have to have to start thinking in that mindset. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    John, the count determines whether you should "pick up the pieces and move on" not the outcome of past hands. Of course if you're underfunded that's another problem.
    In my story I think I was underfunded by that point, but not sure. I'm not sure if I quit for the day, for the trip or just ate a comped meal then went back to the tables. After a bad run it's good to take a break. I take a walk or use the hotel gym. Last trip I was dealt awful hands. There were several times when I wasn't dealt a 20 for over 20 hands. But I hung in there and ended up winning over $500.

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    I've had some pretty bad losing sessions. The longer you play, the easier they are to stomach and eventually you will just understand that it's part of the game. You should title this thread a "Good run of cards", considering your inadequate bankroll and how you are just learning. It was more than possible that you could have lost all your money, each and every visit considering these facts. It is possible that even if you were already proficient at counting you could have lost all your money every single one of those visits. It happens and you will see crazier things happen. Even ploppies have massive wins sometimes and they are playing at a disadvantage. But you're learning and there was and is nothing more valuable to my learning process than real live casino play so good luck and I'm glad your seeking advice. I would recommend you purchase CVData and CVCX so you can simulate your play and see just how bad things can and will get if you are serious about advantage play.

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