Hollywood Casino - Lawrenceburg, IN

[johndaly47]

The truth is with a $1000 win target and a $400 stop loss, you will lose the $400 about 75-80% of the time. If your numbers were right the casinos would go broke. If you were able to win $1000 80% of the time and lose $400 20%, that would imply an average result of +$720. You've admitted you have no advantage, so it should be obvious that this result is not possible. I can't say you won't get backed off (casinos are dumb) but any smart casino will welcome your action. All I can say is good luck.

Well, I see your point and thanks again for the response. I guess I'll ask a question just to get further knowledge on this. Where is the disadvantage in betting bigger on the house money? If I'm up on house money and place big bets on house money, where is or is there a flaw there? True, I will lose some of those big bets, but if it's not taking away from my start money then I can just attempt to rebuild again. One thing I've learned, and I would assume it is true, is to not get caught up in the size of the bet. I am sure many players play flat because they don't want to risk anything and they continue to bet flat even when up. I know what my start money is, I know pretty much any situation what I am up, so if I splash around a big bet and hit it I might be up $1,000 instead of $500, which then can really make for an exciting and also lucrative session.

[johndaly47]

This casino is actually where I first started counting cards in a real casino. I say "real casino" because I actually practiced at charity events that had blackjack. It was the "dealer wins all ties" variety but BJ's paid 2-1 and $1 minimum bets ($10 max)--this helped me get practice in a fake casino environment at low risk (I made $60 my first time too... apologies to the elementary school that I won money from!).

Anyways, there are definitely a number of other AP's that play here. I've even played at a table that I had the definite impression was being hit by a team, but I wasn't 100% positive. I've had Pit Boss and Dealer heat in my experience, however I don't play here much anymore. Last time I did play, the dealer made comments just to me (I was alone at the table) when I raised my bets "raises his bet with a good count..." ... "+10 count now, definitely time to raise" and so on. I wanted to just leave, but thought it would be too obvious, so I played anti-AP for a bit and then left (lowered bets in still positive count, made slightly unusual plays, talked like a ploppy). This is mainly the reason why I stopped going there, but it's maybe the 3rd or 4th best casino in the tri-state area so I go to nicers ones.

Also, when you make future posts, I suggest not to state specifically how much you bought in for, at what table limit it was, and your exact profit (your second post was a very specific number). Of course you state that you don't count, but that might be enough info for them to know who you are now if they wanted to figure that out.

How would that be possible for them to know who I would be? Just curious. Sorry, have to say this one time. "Utah, get me two!"

[Marlene]

Check out this guy (@2:00) He has a similar system. "I'm not a quittah" http://youtu.be/GFzpKuXpR0o

[johndaly47]

The truth is with a $1000 win target and a $400 stop loss, you will lose the $400 about 75-80% of the time. If your numbers were right the casinos would go broke. If you were able to win $1000 80% of the time and lose $400 20%, that would imply an average result of +$720. You've admitted you have no advantage, so it should be obvious that this result is not possible. I can't say you won't get backed off (casinos are dumb) but any smart casino will welcome your action. All I can say is good luck.

Not to harp on this, but if you would, check out Oscar's Betting System by Arnold Snyder. You can google it I'm sure. Anyway, I kind of like his approach as I want to try and win each time I go play, not just looking at the long run. Nuff said. If you like, check it out if you haven't already. Thanks.

[DM21]

Check out this guy (@2:00) He has a similar system. "I'm not a quittah" http://youtu.be/GFzpKuXpR0o

That was hard to watch, but I couldn't bring myself to quit watching it. Total train wreck material

[Jabberwocky]

It's an old system. Consider this. People have been playing OG forever but the casinos are still in operation. Do you have any idea why?

[johndaly47]

It's an old system. Consider this. People have been playing OG forever but the casinos are still in operation. Do you have any idea why?

True, but the old argument that the "casinos are still in business" really doesn't hold water due to the fact that they have at their disposal a much larger bankroll than a few people playing blackjack. Let's remember there are a ton more games to choose from at a casino. Slots, craps, caribbean stud, etc. where the house truly has a huge advantage. Not sure where the table games cut comes into play with their bottom line every month, but I would imagine a huge chunk of casino profits don't come from table games. They come from slots and other chance games. Anyway, not saying his system is perfect, no system is, but if I or whomever is pushing out large bets against the casino, I like my chances much better if I have their money in there while doing it.

[Nyne]

Well, I see your point and thanks again for the response. I guess I'll ask a question just to get further knowledge on this. Where is the disadvantage in betting bigger on the house money? If I'm up on house money and place big bets on house money, where is or is there a flaw there? True, I will lose some of those big bets, but if it's not taking away from my start money then I can just attempt to rebuild again. One thing I've learned, and I would assume it is true, is to not get caught up in the size of the bet. I am sure many players play flat because they don't want to risk anything and they continue to bet flat even when up. I know what my start money is, I know pretty much any situation what I am up, so if I splash around a big bet and hit it I might be up $1,000 instead of $500, which then can really make for an exciting and also lucrative session.

The truth is there is no such thing as "house money". As soon as you win it, it's yours, and you're still playing with "your" money the entire time. The bottom line is without counting, but playing basic strategy, you will lose about 0.5% of all money you bet. It doesn't matter if that money was originally in your pocket or originally in the chip rack. The cards don't care where the money came from. If you want to gamble and lose most sessions, but occasionally have a moderately large win (2-3x your starting stake), keep doing what you are doing and have fun. But understand that this will cost you money. If you want to make a profit, you should stop what you are doing and learn how to count cards, but you'll need a large bankroll to do so for the kind of stakes you've been playing.

[hitthat16]

^ What he said.

If everyone had to evacuate the building all of a sudden, who takes the chips that are in front of you? You or the casino?

The house money is in the chip rack, plain and simple.

[stopgambling]

The op is very lucky to stumbled upon this site.This site could change him from a losing gambler to a winning player,even though a player playing a winning game can still lose ! Someone said this to me,Gambling is putting money into a venture and hoping to win. Investing is putting money into a venture expecting to win.

[21gunsalute]

Well, I see your point and thanks again for the response. I guess I'll ask a question just to get further knowledge on this. Where is the disadvantage in betting bigger on the house money? If I'm up on house money and place big bets on house money, where is or is there a flaw there? True, I will lose some of those big bets, but if it's not taking away from my start money then I can just attempt to rebuild again. One thing I've learned, and I would assume it is true, is to not get caught up in the size of the bet. I am sure many players play flat because they don't want to risk anything and they continue to bet flat even when up. I know what my start money is, I know pretty much any situation what I am up, so if I splash around a big bet and hit it I might be up $1,000 instead of $500, which then can really make for an exciting and also lucrative session.

Quit while you're ahead. If what you are doing is working for you then why do you need the blessings of anyone here?

[21gunsalute]

Well, I see your point and thanks again for the response. I guess I'll ask a question just to get further knowledge on this. Where is the disadvantage in betting bigger on the house money? If I'm up on house money and place big bets on house money, where is or is there a flaw there? True, I will lose some of those big bets, but if it's not taking away from my start money then I can just attempt to rebuild again. One thing I've learned, and I would assume it is true, is to not get caught up in the size of the bet. I am sure many players play flat because they don't want to risk anything and they continue to bet flat even when up. I know what my start money is, I know pretty much any situation what I am up, so if I splash around a big bet and hit it I might be up $1,000 instead of $500, which then can really make for an exciting and also lucrative session.

I've made that same mistake playing slots. I'll be playing a slot that keeps hitting big payouts and I'll start thinking "I should be betting more", so I do. What often happens is I then start losing when I start betting more, and quickly lose all the money I was up before I started betting more. Slots and Blackjack are alike in that what's happened previously has no bearing on what's going to happen in the future...unless you are counting cards and know how to use this info.

[21gunsalute]

Not to harp on this, but if you would, check out Oscar's Betting System by Arnold Snyder. You can google it I'm sure. Anyway, I kind of like his approach as I want to try and win each time I go play, not just looking at the long run. Nuff said. If you like, check it out if you haven't already. Thanks.

If you're going to read Snyder, then why not learn his Zen system?