barred at Harrah's. Please advise.

[JBX2]

Barred AND tresspassed. Which really sucked.
But here's my question:
Do you think..
I could match into Caesar's. NOT give them my name. And play for an hour or so.
Question (1) Are the facial recognition systems THAT strong that i could be caught?

And (2) If they catch me, could I just say something like, "Whaaat? Man, i didn't know you guys were affilliated with Harrah's!" Geez, you can't expect to remember EVERY one of the the Harrah's properties, can you?"

Finally, (3) Is there ANY way i can play at a Harrah's hotel again?
I mean, if i disguised myself. Didn't give 'em my name. If I kept my sessions short. If I didn't make big moves.

This is really tough. Please advise. JBX2

[BigJer]

If I so may ask, which Harrah's were you banned at? (PM me if you want.) I was BO at a Harrah's and can play at all the other Harrah's properties.

Question (1) Are the facial recognition systems THAT strong that i could be caught?

FR is not that good yet.

And (2) If they catch me, could I just say something like, "Whaaat? Man, i didn't know you guys were affilliated with Harrah's!" Geez, you can't expect to remember EVERY one of the the Harrah's properties, can you?"

Yes.

Finally, (3) Is there ANY way i can play at a Harrah's hotel again?

Maybe.

[Math Demon]

Wait!

Didn't you just post on Wed, 06-12-2013:
http://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sho...ver-get-barred

"JBX2: perfect system. Never get barred.

Here's what i got:

$50 min DD game. 0
DAS. H17. NoLS. NoRA.
And the cut card goes in at one deck.
I have $50,000 bankroll.

I bet $100 right off the top.
If the true count is +2 or more, I double my bet. Win? Double it again.
Bottom line, with positive counts, i double up until i get to $400, but I NEVER jump my bets.
Sometimes, if win again with $400, increase bet to $600.
What if the count is pos and i lose?
Just wait until I win to double up. (GREAT camo!)
With negaitve counts, NEVER bet above $100.
Neg count and lose? Just bet $50.
Neg count and win? Double up to $100. (Yes, increase your bet RIGHT INTO THE NEG COUNT!!)
When betting $100 with neg counts, BET FOUR GREEN! (It looks like more.)
Even with a lousy cut, my sims have me winning OVER $100 an hour!
Yes, with 24% chance of ruin, but still...
Ive been using this system without any heat at all at all the local casinos.
Played for 10 hours the other night at an Indian casino. Won $500. Got massive comps. Had a great time.

What do you think?
What am i missing?

"

What did you do that made them "bar and trespass" you? What was your bet spread? What was your max bet? Was there anything you did that made them suspect you of cheating?


Thanks,
MD

[max85]

I was playing at harrahs vegas with no issue

[mcallister3200]

Frankly your future bankroll should thank you, if your going to go back to a place you've been barred I would think you'd at least want a strong game. I play at 19 different stores in town and neither Harrahs or Caesar's makes the cut. Frs, surveillance tools are only as good as the people using them I believe. You can certainly play at Caesar's but it might not be a bad idea to give it a month if they have a fresh surveillance flyer on you now.

[bigplayer]

Your players card is toast at all Caesars Entertainment properties in the country and you photo has likely been circulated between all of the Caesars Entertainment properties. Time to get another players card or begin playing anonymously.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

As expected, bigplayer "cuts to the chase"

FR is poor, but I have been caught and detained by security

carrying about my photo !

[Baberuth]

From my visits and other posts over the years I thought Harrah's properties were some of the worst BJ games and the heat was turned up. Maybe the higher limit rooms are what I am missing, but playing green to light black, I found many better games than their stores. Also CBJN says the same. I am not barred at Harrah's and still won't play there. Looking for other feedback to confirm this. I am with Mac. They didn't make my cut either. undefined

[shadroch]

Harrahs Laughlin has a decent $25 DD game that you can spread 1-4 with little heat. I've played it on occasion but don't like $25 minimum games myself.

[21forme]

Harrahs Laughlin has a decent $25 DD game

How do you define decent? If it's not very deeply cut or very good rules, 1-4 ain't gonna do the job. Maybe that's why there's little heat.

[stopgambling]

What happened to the perfect system ? There is no perfect system. it may work for a while ,but eventually someone will see thru it. Anyway this system is nothing new. We all love to post all these great ideas for everyone to see.Even an idiot like me can get the info easily and figure it out. The other side will thank you for it if you really do have a good system and present it to the world to see. You do know everything you put up is for the world to see right?

[stopgambling]

Oh also i really have no idea who i am talking to anyway ,it could be some casino boss that had a lot of free time and trying to get some info from some low level wannabee cc. They do get some bigger fish sometimes i believe.

[RS]

What happened to the perfect system ? There is no perfect system. it may work for a while ,but eventually someone will see thru it. Anyway this system is nothing new. We all love to post all these great ideas for everyone to see.Even an idiot like me can get the info easily and figure it out. The other side will thank you for it if you really do have a good system and present it to the world to see. You do know everything you put up is for the world to see right?

Except for North Korea....