See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 19

Thread: perfect system. Never get barred.

  1. #1


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    perfect system. Never get barred.

    Here's what i got:

    $50 min DD game. 0
    DAS. H17. NoLS. NoRA.
    And the cut card goes in at one deck.
    I have $50,000 bankroll.

    I bet $100 right off the top.
    If the true count is +2 or more, I double my bet. Win? Double it again.
    Bottom line, with positive counts, i double up until i get to $400, but I NEVER jump my bets.
    Sometimes, if win again with $400, increase bet to $600.
    What if the count is pos and i lose?
    Just wait until I win to double up. (GREAT camo!)
    With negaitve counts, NEVER bet above $100.
    Neg count and lose? Just bet $50.
    Neg count and win? Double up to $100. (Yes, increase your bet RIGHT INTO THE NEG COUNT!!)
    When betting $100 with neg counts, BET FOUR GREEN! (It looks like more.)
    Even with a lousy cut, my sims have me winning OVER $100 an hour!
    Yes, with 24% chance of ruin, but still...
    Ive been using this system without any heat at all at all the local casinos.
    Played for 10 hours the other night at an Indian casino. Won $500. Got massive comps. Had a great time.

    What do you think?
    What am i missing?

  2. #2


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    No.

  3. #3


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    24% RoR!?

    And I thought I played dangerously!
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

  4. #4
    Senior Member Slacker13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    East Coast
    Posts
    143


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    24% RoR!?

    And I thought I played dangerously!
    It is only a 50k bankroll. I find that in my couch some days.
    "Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded" - Yogi Berra

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Right behind you
    Posts
    295


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Personally, I don't consider $100 per hour terribly impressive under those circumstances. But that's subjective. More to the point, I can't agree that you'll "never get barred" in a double deck game playing that way. In lots of places in Las Vegas, playing that 12:1 spread will get you backed off reliably and quickly. They just don't want to see anyone spreading at all on those games, and they don't want to see anyone winning. If this plan works in your local casino, and you're happy with it, more power to you! (Also, maybe you have a way to convert the comps to cash, and that could certainly help your bottom line. Just understand that you risk poisoning your name far, far outside your local community.)

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    east
    Posts
    456


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    There has got to be better pen somewhere near you. Have to agree with Tthree. Not a good game. Hope you are playing one on one. Congrats on your successes.

  7. #7


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by JBX2 View Post
    What if the count is pos and i lose?
    Just wait until I win to double up. (GREAT camo!)
    Sounds especially costly in a 50% pen game. Also, you say your sims have you winning over $100 per hour. What are you using to sim this and what is N0?

  8. #8
    Senior Member blackjackomaha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Great Plains
    Posts
    360


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Definitely look for a DD with better pen and/or rules, or a more playable 6D
    You don't score, until you SCORE!

  9. #9
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    1,504


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by JBX2 View Post
    Even with a lousy cut, my sims have me winning OVER $100 an hour!
    Yes, with 24% chance of ruin, but still...
    24% ROR no biggie right?, you're making 100 n hour.........

  10. #10


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    A sincere thank you for all your replies...
    My main point is this: So often the emphasis is blackjack is to jump your bets from 1 to 4 units when the count is plus 4.
    However, my sims show that even at a "true" +2 count, you have a slight advantage.
    And at a true +1 your e.v. is just barely neg.
    So...
    Why not use these times to throw up camoflage by doubling up your bets if you win?
    It seems to me that most pitbosses (especially those outside the high stakes gaming area, and esp those pitbosses whose are NOT white, middle-aged men) are simply trained to look for players making large, obvious jumps. The don't see it as a threat! My above system just looks like a typical progressive idiot.
    And doubling into a neg count will throw off the scent of even the most skilled representative. (A counter will simply NEVER do this!)

    Yes, with a deck DD, one deck cutoff is lousy. And the rules could be better.
    But that's my point...!
    It's still beatable. My est E.V. of at LEAST 0.4% advantage.
    Heads up with dealer. 180 hands per hour. Average bet: around $170.
    Actually, OOPS! That comes to $155 an hour.

    Yes, $50K is no chump change.
    But I've got it. I can afford to lose it. I can replenish it.

    And yes, I am basically moving my chips from one to 12 units.
    But it is SO unorthodox, trust me, this system will -- at least -- buy you TONS of time at the tables.

    Finally, I confess...
    Yes, this ACTUAL scenario is impossible to sim. (At least not that my software can do.)
    But I did program this:
    Count less than -4? Bet 1 unit
    Count between -4 and 0? Bet 2 units
    0 and 4? 2 units.
    greater than 4? 4 units.
    Program never increase to 6 units, but I do in a real game.
    And like, i say, i STILL get a +0.4. e.v.

  11. #11


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    One more thing:

    Why not bet four units right off the top.
    And then...
    If the count stays pos., you just LEAVE IT at 4 units.
    If the count goes neg., THEN you just move your chips from one to two.
    Go ahead, run this sim yourself.
    It's a def +E.V.
    And I it's SOOO unusual that, well, it'll just take a while for them to catch up to you, if at all.

  12. #12
    Banned or Suspended
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Eastern U S A
    Posts
    6,830


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    Thumbs up AAaargh !


    A Suicidal ROR -- almost DOUBLE "Full Kelly Betting."

    Aaargh !

  13. #13
    Senior Member happyjack21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    216


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    go big or go home.

    I'm sorry, I had to.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Barred, maybe trespassed
    By Purple Rain in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 01-16-2013, 09:48 PM
  2. privador: Barred against CSM
    By privador in forum Blackjack Main
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-08-2005, 08:06 AM
  3. Jimmakos: Barred
    By Jimmakos in forum Blackjack Beginners
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-12-2003, 10:21 AM
  4. BlackJackHack: Help Me, I've been barred!
    By BlackJackHack in forum Main Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-08-2002, 01:57 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.