Sorry, my persona chip is on the fritz today and I had to send it back to the factory for repairs. I'll be speaking primarily in binary today.
This entire thread is completely and utterly irrelevant! While you're wasting your time interacting correctly, in an 'unsimulatable way,' with the pit boss; the Casino, or, Shift Manager is standing behind you and is about to tap you on the shoulder, because he's the one who actually makes the decisions. Interacting correctly with a pit boss is like trying not to offend a lamp post; who gives a sh!t!
And does this all mean you've completely changed your tune? You're the guy who goes on endlessly (and I do mean endlessly) about fractions of a percentage gains that are only present in simulations, and you now don't believe in simulations?
"One of these days in your travels, you are going to come across a guy with a nice brand new deck of cards, and this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the Jack of Spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not take this bet, for if you do, as sure as you are standing there, you are going to end up with an ear full of cider."
If you don't have as large an advantage as you are capable of then giving up a tiny bit to get a bigger top bet and a larger spread can be high risk. With a strong playing advantage you can give up some EV to get more back through higher maxes and bigger spreads as well as longevity. Without a strong advantage the associated volatility can be tough for many to handle.
But, how much advantage are you giving up? That is the point of the chapter on Cover in Modern Blackjack. Most books that talk about cover give examples aimed at longevity. My chapter on cover is quite the opposite. It focuses on the costs of cover. Because, those costs are far higher than people generally realize. Indeed, some unwittingly give up their entire slim advantage with cover play. And, I was able to cover cover, because of cover sims.
Last edited by Norm; 06-12-2013 at 06:12 PM.
"I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse
The higher your advantage the more you can afford. Properly thought out cover is fairly cheap. I have wrote on this before. People still put up quotes of what I wrote on Ken's sight. You are right though most people really don't understand how cheap or expensive cover plays are. Cover betting is even trickier. Any use of cover should be used sparingly. My hourly went up when I started using cover. But then I have a pretty fair grasp of the costs and how to reap benefits. As a red chipper I didn't feel I could afford cover or that it was necessary.
I have been thinking about this thread and what Norm has said whic I respect as he is one of the foremost experts on a tleast blackjack sims if not in a more general sense. To me a sim has meaningful results if you can use them to improve your game. You can sim anything. It doesn't mean the results will be meaningful and useful;. The types of pit/player interactions I am referring to, the reads and a feel for what is going on in the pit and perhaps the surveillance room can be simmed but it will give you nothing to improve these things in your play. This is what I mean when I say they can't be simmed. The results of the sim are of no use to your pit interactions and reads and the like. So I guess a better way of putting it is it can be simmed but it is pointless to do so as the results are useless as a learning tool.
The point of such sims is to determine the cost of non-optimal play resulting from heat, and to find less costly measures. Fact is, many players give up huge amounts, if not all, of their advantage in an attempt to gain longevity.
"I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse
That is quite useful. I have agreed with you about many being clueless on the cost of cover plays. All you have to do is read some of the comments on this board. If you understand the cost of cover you can see how deluded they are. Even when experts point it out they still cling to the idea that they are using cheap cover when it is quite expensive. I totally agree with you on this point.
Nobody missed the point. I was never talking about that. My initial point was poorly made but was that you will encounter aspects of the game in the casino that can't be simmed. What I was talking about was reading humans and the human interactions that we call an act and cover. You create a persona and sell it. If your play and your act work in concert you are usually successful. A simulator can't simulate the human aspect of that part of the game. It can play the plays used for cover but can't sell the act or read the reaction to it from those you are trying to deceive and adjust accordingly.Originally Posted by truthiness
Last edited by Three; 06-11-2013 at 07:14 PM.
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