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Thread: Sun Runner: Ill 18 rounded

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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Ill 18 rounded

    I originally learned indexes (the Catch 22 are all I know) by rounding them all to either a 0, a 2, or a 4. As long as I played 6D, it seemed to be 'good enough' as after the rounding was through, I was not that so far off the C-22 that I felt uncomfortable.

    Now that I'm starting to play more SD and DD I am a little uncomfortable with my rounding process.

    If I decided to maintain my 0, 2, 4, style how much 'riskier' is it to round down than up, say for example, 10,10 v. 5 down to an index of 4? In the past, playing 6D, I did round down (wanted to split those tens earlier!!)

    I felt with the less volatile 6D it was not a problem. However with SD and DD, should I be more conservative and round up?

    Yes, I know this is about as vague as khan's last post, and yes, I should just suck it up and learn the indexes properly, but hey, it's a start for me.

    Thanks.

  2. #2
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Ill 18 rounded

    > If I decided to maintain my 0, 2, 4, style
    > how much 'riskier' is it to round down than
    > up, say for example, 10,10 v. 5 down to an
    > index of 4? In the past, playing 6D, I did
    > round down (wanted to split those tens
    > earlier!!)

    It won't make very much difference at all. This is a play you get once in a blue moon, and splitting a little early won't matter at all.

    > I felt with the less volatile 6D it was not
    > a problem. However with SD and DD, should I
    > be more conservative and round up?

    Up to you. Do you want more variance or don't you? Most people would prefer to err on the side of caution. For me, I'd go to +6, but then, I don't split 10s anymore, in any case!

    Don

  3. #3
    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: Ill 18 rounded

    I wasn't intending to focus on 10 splitting -just using it as an example.

    The thrust of my question was top to bottom, rounding the indexes down to the nearest 0,2,4 or rounding them up.

    In 6D if there was a signifigant increase in variance, I could not tell.

    In SD/DD, is there a signifigant increase in variance one from the other.

    Again, I know 'signifigant' is not exactly quantifiable.

    Thanks.

  4. #4
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Ill 18 rounded

    > I wasn't intending to focus on 10 splitting
    > -just using it as an example.

    > The thrust of my question was top to bottom,
    > rounding the indexes down to the nearest
    > 0,2,4 or rounding them up.

    > In 6D if there was a signifigant increase in
    > variance, I could not tell.

    > In SD/DD, is there a signifigant increase in
    > variance one from the other.

    > Again, I know 'signifigant' is not exactly
    > quantifiable.

    No, there won't be a significant increase in variance. That said, if I were you, I'd round up, nonetheless. Why should you look to increase variance and to make more departures than necessary?

    Don

  5. #5
    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Re: Ill 18 rounded

    > Why should you look
    > to increase variance and to make more
    > departures than necessary?

    Because I like to split tens .. early and often?



    I'll take your advice. Actually I may just suck it up and learn the correct numbers.

    Thanks.

  6. #6
    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: If this helps, SR,...

    > Because I like to split tens .. early and
    > often?

    >

    > I'll take your advice. Actually I may just
    > suck it up and learn the correct numbers.

    > Thanks.

    when splitting 10's or hitting soft 20, or even doubling down on a BJ, I will err on the side of caution. If there is any question as to rounding up or down, I will go in the safer direction. When you make such moves I figure I better be right on, or I will look the fool. So far I have done very well on these wild moves.

    Regards,
    Ouchez.

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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Doubling a BJ ..

    .. what is your index there, 21?

    Seems like DS told once it is about 11 or 12 as I recall. I haven't seen that count lately!

  8. #8
    Ouchez
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    Ouchez: Not only a pos 12 or above

    > .. what is your index there, 21?

    > Seems like DS told once it is about 11 or 12
    > as I recall. I haven't seen that count
    > lately!

    in the DD game you best be really deep in when you pull this one off. A huge rush for a *junkie* like me.

    I see big positives above 6 very often, the joy of a deep dealt game.

    Last weekend I doubled a soft 20, pulled a 10, I believe it was like a pos 9, deep in. When I let loose it is so much better to be deep in. Shortly thereafter I hit the soft 18 and pulled a 3. GOTTA LOVE IT!!

    G/day,
    Ouchez.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Doubling a BJ ..

    > Seems like DS told once it is about 11 or 12
    > as I recall. I haven't seen that count
    > lately!

    You would never double down on a natural, but the hi-lo indices for doubling A,T, when you split aces, are +14, +12, +10, +8, and +8, v. 2-6, respectively.

    Don

  10. #10
    Ouchez
    Guest

    Ouchez: Thanks for the info! *NM*


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