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eephour: Shuffle Track
I am trying to learn shuffle tracking. I am a competent counter and understand the basics of shuffle tracking. But for me the memory challenge is significant. Using even a 6 deck shoe with 4 ? 5 decks delt. That is 8 ? 10 half decks plus a cut off guess. Then to add and subtract those numbers using a 2-pass stepladder, who can do this? Forget about an 8-deck shoe. While I can follow small segments of cards through the shuffle, I cannot do a complete shuffle profile. Maybe some tips on how to remember the 8 ? 10 half deck numbers while keeping count would be a great start. Any thoughts?
Thanks
eephour
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Shuffle Track
Suggest you get either George C.'s shuffle-tracking book for beginners (see RGE catalog) and/or Arnold Snyder's S-T series.
Don
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ghost: Re: Shuffle Track
> is arnold snyders s-t series the same info provided in his book blackbelt in bj???
and what specific series are these??
thanks
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Shuffle Track
> and what specific series are these??
Published in BJF, over a three-issue period, several years ago.
Don
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eephour: Re: Shuffle Track
> Published in BJF, over a three-issue period,
> several years ago.
> Don
I have heard the series is difficult to find. I have been unable.
eephour
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Sun Runner: Re: Shuffle Track
> I have heard the series is difficult to
> find. I have been unable.
Have you read "Blackbelt in Blackjack" by Snyder?
There is a pretty good chapter (long) in that book concerning ST'ing.
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eephour: Re: Shuffle Track
> Have you read "Blackbelt in
> Blackjack" by Snyder?
> There is a pretty good chapter (long) in
> that book concerning ST'ing.
I have. That is what i was referring to in my original post. I understand the method. It is fairly simple. I just can't figure out how to keep all those numbers in my head and then manipulate them as the shuffle progresses. That is the hard part for me.
I have also read the George c book. After don's suggestion, I am revisiting it. My gut feel however, is you lose a lot in accuracy. But it does seem like a better start for me than Snyder?s stuff.
eephour
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Stingray: memory techniques
you need to learn some sort of memory technique.
memory be association or something like that.
Go to this URL http://www.vlaardingen.net/~tom/Mainmenu.htm
to learn basic techniques and develop these to what you want not just good for cards but everything in general
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Sun Runner: Re: Shuffle Track
> Maybe some tips on how to remember the 8 ?
> 10 half deck numbers while keeping count
> would be a great start. Any thoughts?
I don't want to be specific, but I play with a couple of "lucky items" I keep in my pocket and then place on the table while I play.
Sounds corny, I know, but looks perfectly natural.
They are there to help me keep count of just the shuffle count .. and of course because they bring great luck.
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Johnny Bravo: Re: Shuffle Track
Snyder's shuffle tracking series is out of print. I was lucky enough to buy a copy of it before he went to Huntington Press.
JB
> Suggest you get either George C.'s
> shuffle-tracking book for beginners (see RGE
> catalog) and/or Arnold Snyder's S-T series.
> Don
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eephour: Re: Shuffle Track
> I don't want to be specific, but I play with
> a couple of "lucky items" I keep
> in my pocket and then place on the table
> while I play.
> Sounds corny, I know, but looks perfectly
> natural.
> They are there to help me keep count of just
> the shuffle count .. and of course because
> they bring great luck.
That sounds great. Although, i suppose my lucky notebook computer would be out of the question.
Thanks for the advice.
eephour
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eephour: Re: memory techniques
> you need to learn some sort of memory
> technique.
> memory be association or something like
> that.
> Go to this URL
> http://www.vlaardingen.net/~tom/Mainmenu.htm
> to learn basic techniques and develop these
> to what you want not just good for cards but
> everything in general
I am very familiar with these techniques and use them for other purposes. My problem with this particular application is, the ideas work great for remembering things on a long-term basis. But I find them difficult to use where I need to forget the last shuffle or card sequence and replace with a new one. The images I create tend to run together and mix with older images. Have you used these yourself? If so, how do you keep this from happening?
eephour
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Stingray: Re: memory techniques
> I am very familiar with these techniques and
> use them for other purposes. My problem with
> this particular application is, the ideas
> work great for remembering things on a
> long-term basis. But I find them difficult
> to use where I need to forget the last
> shuffle or card sequence and replace with a
> new one. The images I create tend to run
> together and mix with older images. Have you
> used these yourself? If so, how do you keep
> this from happening?
> eephour
use the mnemonics system,eventually you will remember long sequences of cards.
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