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eephour: Shuffle Track
I am trying to learn shuffle tracking. I am a competent counter and understand the basics of shuffle tracking. But for me the memory challenge is significant. Using even a 6 deck shoe with 4 ? 5 decks delt. That is 8 ? 10 half decks plus a cut off guess. Then to add and subtract those numbers using a 2-pass stepladder, who can do this? Forget about an 8-deck shoe. While I can follow small segments of cards through the shuffle, I cannot do a complete shuffle profile. Maybe some tips on how to remember the 8 ? 10 half deck numbers while keeping count would be a great start. Any thoughts?
Thanks
eephour
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Shuffle Track
Suggest you get either George C.'s shuffle-tracking book for beginners (see RGE catalog) and/or Arnold Snyder's S-T series.
Don
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ghost: Re: Shuffle Track
> is arnold snyders s-t series the same info provided in his book blackbelt in bj???
and what specific series are these??
thanks
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Shuffle Track
> and what specific series are these??
Published in BJF, over a three-issue period, several years ago.
Don
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eephour: Re: Shuffle Track
> Published in BJF, over a three-issue period,
> several years ago.
> Don
I have heard the series is difficult to find. I have been unable.
eephour
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Sun Runner: Re: Shuffle Track
> I have heard the series is difficult to
> find. I have been unable.
Have you read "Blackbelt in Blackjack" by Snyder?
There is a pretty good chapter (long) in that book concerning ST'ing.
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eephour: Re: Shuffle Track
> Have you read "Blackbelt in
> Blackjack" by Snyder?
> There is a pretty good chapter (long) in
> that book concerning ST'ing.
I have. That is what i was referring to in my original post. I understand the method. It is fairly simple. I just can't figure out how to keep all those numbers in my head and then manipulate them as the shuffle progresses. That is the hard part for me.
I have also read the George c book. After don's suggestion, I am revisiting it. My gut feel however, is you lose a lot in accuracy. But it does seem like a better start for me than Snyder?s stuff.
eephour
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Mister M: Re: Shuffle Track
I just can't figure out how to keep all those numbers in my head and then manipulate them as the shuffle progresses. That is the hard part for me.
The cutoff methods outlined by george C have no numbers for you to 'keep in you head'If the end count is heavily plus or minus and you know the location of these cutoffs post shuffle then use the multilplier.Thats it!
> I have also read the George c book.
The booklets to put it bluntly are written with a no frills approach and you need to read them many times to gain the wisdom!
You will lose far more in the way of accuracy and therefore units if you attempt to complicate your tracking methods.
Advanced c.c also by George C is a must buy if you wish to extend yourself further with ST.
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Johnny Bravo: Re: Shuffle Track
Snyder's shuffle tracking series is out of print. I was lucky enough to buy a copy of it before he went to Huntington Press.
JB
> Suggest you get either George C.'s
> shuffle-tracking book for beginners (see RGE
> catalog) and/or Arnold Snyder's S-T series.
> Don
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Stingray: memory techniques
you need to learn some sort of memory technique.
memory be association or something like that.
Go to this URL http://www.vlaardingen.net/~tom/Mainmenu.htm
to learn basic techniques and develop these to what you want not just good for cards but everything in general
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eephour: Re: memory techniques
> you need to learn some sort of memory
> technique.
> memory be association or something like
> that.
> Go to this URL
> http://www.vlaardingen.net/~tom/Mainmenu.htm
> to learn basic techniques and develop these
> to what you want not just good for cards but
> everything in general
I am very familiar with these techniques and use them for other purposes. My problem with this particular application is, the ideas work great for remembering things on a long-term basis. But I find them difficult to use where I need to forget the last shuffle or card sequence and replace with a new one. The images I create tend to run together and mix with older images. Have you used these yourself? If so, how do you keep this from happening?
eephour
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Stingray: Re: memory techniques
> I am very familiar with these techniques and
> use them for other purposes. My problem with
> this particular application is, the ideas
> work great for remembering things on a
> long-term basis. But I find them difficult
> to use where I need to forget the last
> shuffle or card sequence and replace with a
> new one. The images I create tend to run
> together and mix with older images. Have you
> used these yourself? If so, how do you keep
> this from happening?
> eephour
use the mnemonics system,eventually you will remember long sequences of cards.
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Eeephour: Re: memory techniques
> use the mnemonics system,eventually you will
> remember long sequences of cards.
i am just starting to learn that.
thanks
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