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    Hollywood
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    Hollywood: I guess no one could help me

    with my math question?

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > with my math question?

    The question was a little strange. Any reasonable game can be beaten with a 24 to 1 spread. Certainly the one you played could be. But, you gave us no idea of how many hours you played, so how can we tell if your $4,400 was "lucky"?

    I suspect that, playing for the stakes you described, you might win about $50 per hour, so unless you played 88 hours, I suppose you were somewhat lucky!

    Don

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    williwong21
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    williwong21: Re: I guess no one could help me

    Could you insure for more than half your bet on the cruise?Wili.

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    Hollywood
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    Hollywood: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > Could you insure for more than half your bet
    > on the cruise?Wili.

    Hi

    Insurance worked the same as Atlantic City. With half the amount up, I could insure my whole bet.

    Hollywood

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    Hollywood
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    Hollywood: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > The question was a little strange. Any
    > reasonable game can be beaten with a 24 to 1
    > spread. Certainly the one you played could
    > be. But, you gave us no idea of how many
    > hours you played, so how can we tell if your
    > $4,400 was "lucky"?

    > I suspect that, playing for the stakes you
    > described, you might win about $50 per hour,
    > so unless you played 88 hours, I suppose you
    > were somewhat lucky!

    > Don

    Thanks Don,

    I'm sorry, I should have given you more info. Actually I was not trying to understand if I was lucky to win as much as I did, I was trying to understand if at 8 decks with 62.5 pen if anybody that wins is just lucky.

    I was mistaken. Thats why after I was up that much I stopped playing. I thought it was an unbeatable game and I was just having a good run. Now i'm pissed off, I should have emailed you from the ship.

    I don't like to just gamble without an edge. So I stopped because I didn't think I had one.
    Another lesson learned.

    In the next BJ ATTACK, we need a boat section .

    Regards,

    Hollywood

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    Help yourself then!
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    Help yourself then!: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > with my math question?

    1)Don?t play again vs. an 5/8 dks game, no matter
    the circumstances and the spread (1-24).The win rate is ridiculous low and the SD huge enough. You have been lucky, that?s all.

    2)Don?t play vs. 8 dks unless 75% pen. ad minimum.

    3)Better yet, don?t play vs. 8dks at all, unless
    it?s ?My only game in town?,what can I do?

    Clear now Holly?

    Regards
    Z

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    Zenfighter
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    Zenfighter: Re: The above is mine *NM*


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    williwong21
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    williwong21: Re: I guess no one could help me

    That's my only game in town.Would you know what kind of bank I would need for a $5 min to 3 spots of 50 or 75 max bet.25 on 3 spots at about plus 2,and max bet from 3 on.Otherwise 5 or sit out.S17,LS,DAS.I'm looking for abot 10 % risk ofruin.3 other spots being played t all times.I'm guessing about 15,000.If I could trouble you for one more question.You mentioned a high standard deviation,but does that necessarly mean a high risk of run?Thanx in advance,Willi.

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    Hollywood
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    Hollywood: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > 1)Don?t play again vs. an 5/8 dks game, no
    > matter
    > the circumstances and the spread (1-24).The
    > win rate is ridiculous low and the SD huge
    > enough. You have been lucky, that?s all.

    > 2)Don?t play vs. 8 dks unless 75% pen. ad
    > minimum.

    > 3)Better yet, don?t play vs. 8dks at all,
    > unless
    > it?s ?My only game in town?,what can I do?

    > Clear now Holly?

    > Regards
    > Z

    On a boat, in the middle of the ocean, trust me.

    "It's the only game in town."

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > If I could trouble you for one
    > more question.You mentioned a high standard
    > deviation, but does that necessarly mean a
    > high risk of run?

    Short answer: no. ROR is a function of the ratio of EV to variance. The latter, as you know, is the square of standard deviation. So, as your variance (SD) increases, so long as your EV keeps pace, your ROR doesn't change.

    Don

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    Zenfighter
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    Zenfighter: Re: I guess no one could help me

    > That's my only game in town.Would you know
    > what kind of bank I would need for a $5 min
    > to 3 spots of 50 or 75 max bet.25 on 3 spots
    > at about plus 2,and max bet from 3
    > on.Otherwise 5 or sit out.S17,LS,DAS.I'm
    > looking for abot 10 % risk ofruin.3 other
    > spots being played t all times.I'm guessing
    > about 15,000.If I could trouble you for one
    > more question.You mentioned a high standard
    > deviation,but does that necessarly mean a
    > high risk of run?Thanx in advance,Willi.

    If I?m reading you correctly you?re planning
    to use a 1-20 spread ($5-$100) like this:

    -2 or less ** 0
    -1 ********* $5
    0 ********** $5
    1 ********** $25
    2 ********** $50 (or 2*35 or 3*25)
    3 or more* $100 (or 2*75 or 3*50)

    If you can go away with such a spread the risk is
    aprox. the same no matter 1,2 or the 3 hands approach. Provided 6/8 delt out and with LS also, $10000 looks a reasonable bankroll for me. You need to bet at TC=1 also, the betting opportunities for 8dks are lesser than for the
    fewer dks ones. So don?t miss them.

    Sincerely
    Z

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    williwong21
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    williwong21: Re: I guess no one could help me

    Thanx for the help.It's 5 out of 8 unfortunetly.I know it's a garbage game but I'm going to give it a shot.I also go heads up at the 10 dollar mins and wong out at -1.I was often betting 3 quaters at plus eight running or any +1 true.I though it would be a little riskier with 3 spots weighing on only one dealer upcard.Merci,Willi.

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