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Wolverine: ROFLMAO!
> Yes. I keep 3 sets of detailed records. One for
> myself, one for my wife, and one for the IRS.
I didn't realize I needed to wear Depends (R) Undergarments when reading this thread...I about peed my pants laughing. Thanks for brightening up my day Coug Fan. You're awesome.
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Norm Wattenberger: A lot of truth in there:) *NM*
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Victoria: Re: Survey for young women gamblers in Vegas
> This is a survey for a casino management/marketing
> class. My team is doing ?young, female, winning
> gamblers in Vegas.? Yeah, what of it? (No, I don't
> have to meet you for it! Just the survey.) Anybody can
> take the survey, but it would really help if you are a
> local young Vegas woman. I?ve tailored it a lot to
> poker and blackjack stuff but feel free to add in
> anything you want afterwards. I need everything I can
> get!
> Please assume ?and why?? or ?and why not?? is applied
> after every question, except the first two. (Yes, this
> means I want to know why for the 3rd question.)
Not sure what you mean as young from a college perspective but here goes:
> Age? 33
> Ethnicity? Mutt of Puerto Rican, Italian and Jewish
> Religion? A rebel catholic
> A coin is flipped 3 times and comes up tails for all
> three. Is heads or tails more likely to appear on the
> next toss? Neither
> Do you like Las Vegas? Yes
> How often do you gamble? Twice a month but a lot while in Vegas
> Do you win when you gamble? I am a lifetime winner but no one always wins
> What is your game of choice? Blackjack
> Have you looked into other games? Video Poker
> Do you keep records of your gambling wins and losses? Yes
> What factors have contributed to your looking into
> more games or not, and what do you believe are the
> most significant differences between house games
> (player vs. house) and poker? I am only looking at games where the house edge can be overcome.
> If you saw the dealer exposing cards being dealt to
> other players at a poker table, would you tell? No
> If you saw the dealer expose his hole card at
> blackjack, would you tell? No
> Do you like the casino environment? Yes
> Do you like and/or respect the gaming industry? No, but there are many people in the casino business that I like and or respect.
> A coin is flipped 100 times and comes up tails for all
> 100. Is heads or tails more likely to appear on the
> next toss? Nether
> Do you have a positive expectation when you gamble? Yes
> Have you heard of and if so, what do you know about,
> the following people: Nick Dandalos, Julian Bruan,
> Johnny Moss, Kenny Uston, Steve Fezzik, Jeffery Ma,
> Michael Roxborough, Thomas Austin Preston, William
> Nelson Darnborough, Erich Weiss?
Julian Braun, Kenny Uston, and Steve Fezzik
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Bettie: I'm becoming more and more
disappointed that no one is mentioning Erich Weiss! Come on people ? he was probably the greatest showman of his time (and no, he wasn't Siegfried Fischbacher)!
Bettie
> Julian Braun, Kenny Uston, and Steve Fezzik
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college kid: Re: Survey for young women gamblers in Vegas
Thank you so much for your response! And as per Bettie's reply to it, I am surprised about Erich Weiss not being mentioned by either of them too!
> Not sure what you mean as young from a college
> perspective but here goes:
> Julian Braun, Kenny Uston, and Steve Fezzik
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Survey for young women gamblers in Vegas
> Thank you so much for your response! And as per
> Bettie's reply to it, I am surprised about Erich Weiss
> not being mentioned by either of them too!
I'd bet there isn't one person in 1,000 who knows Houdini's real name. Moreover, exactly what does it have to do with a gambling survey?
Don
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Bettie: Way to spoil the fun, Don!
Just teasing! Houdini actually wrote a book on exposing gambling and card cheats, among other types of psychic and spiritualism scams, and was kind of the Penn Gillette of his day in that regard. (How many of you know that Penn writes for "Skeptical Inquirer" and "Skeptic" magazines?)
I actually only didn't know 2 of the people on the list, the sportsbettor/horse guy or whatever he bet, and the roulette guy. He's an old reference, though, since his heyday was apparently from 1904 to 1911. I didn't know Johnny Moss was a convicted child molestor, though. Mostly I just know him from the story of the months-long poker game with Nick the Greek at Binions.
Bettie
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Coug Fan: Johnny Moss
> I actually only didn't know 2 of the people on the
> list, the sportsbettor/horse guy or whatever he bet,
> and the roulette guy. He's an old reference, though,
> since his heyday was apparently from 1904 to 1911. I
> didn't know Johnny Moss was a convicted child
> molestor, though. Mostly I just know him from the
> story of the months-long poker game with Nick the
> Greek at Binions.
I hope I have the right guy with Johnny Moss. I was going from memory and I believe that it was him. Definately one of the old-time poker pros who used to play with Doyle and Sailor Roberts. Child Molestor is a bit strong since it was statutory rape of a 13 year old IIRC.
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college kid: It was Slim
Slim was conviced last year of child molestation.
> I hope I have the right guy with Johnny Moss. I was
> going from memory and I believe that it was him.
> Definately one of the old-time poker pros who used to
> play with Doyle and Sailor Roberts. Child Molestor is
> a bit strong since it was statutory rape of a 13 year
> old IIRC.
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ES: Three Questions
> Do you like the casino environment?
I would like it if they made the casinos smoke-free, or, at least made half or more of the floor space smoke free.
> Do you like and/or respect the gaming industry?
Neither! They are greedy bastards.
> Have you heard of and if so, what do you know about,
> the following people: Nick Dandalos, Julian Bruan,
> Johnny Moss, Kenny Uston, Steve Fezzik, Jeffery Ma,
> Michael Roxborough, Thomas Austin Preston, William
> Nelson Darnborough, Erich Weiss?
Only four of them.
Nick Dandalos was Nick the Greek, a high roller who allegedly said the best thing in life is to gamble and win, the second best is to gamble and lose.
Julian Braun was a computer programmer for IBM and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, whose pioneering work helped develop the Thorp, Revere and High-Opt systems. He died of Parkionson's Disease in 2000. He is one of our unsung heroes.
Ken Uston's lifestyle and lawsuits made him a controversial figure. I supported his lawsuits. He temporarily restored early surrender in Atlantic City and ended arbitrary and capricious barring of suspected card counters in AC. He did NOT destroy the hitherto beatable game. DOA, DAS, S17 ESR, 4 or 6 Decks and NRS (the only bad rule). The Casino Control Commission most likely did not know that these rules gave the BS player a slight edge and removed ESR w/o any compensating favorable rule at the behest of the casinos in 1981, before Uston won his case. The circumstances of Uston's death at age 52 remain mysterious.
Erich Weiss was the stage name of magician Harry Houdini. I do not know whether he did card tricks or was involved with gambling. Much of his act was centered on escapes, rather than illusions. He most likely performed them through physical strength and flexibility. He exposed phony "spiritualists" and "mediums" that claimed to be able to communicate with the dead. Houdini also died young.
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Bettie: Got it backwards
> Erich Weiss was the stage name of magician Harry
> Houdini.
No, it was his birth name.
> I do not know whether he did card tricks or
> was involved with gambling. Much of his act was
> centered on escapes, rather than illusions.
True, but he did write a book on how to spot card trick scams and other gambling scams (see my post above or type "Harry Houdini" into Amazon.com).
Bettie
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Saboteur: You want to know "why" for "Religion?"? Huh? *NM*
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