Did anyone catch the new show on the Travel Channel called Vegas Scams and Cheats 2006? In typical fashion, the show included a piece about advantage players. When are they going to learn we are not associated with scammers and cheaters?
I was thoroughly amused when one so-called expert stated that in the town of Vegas itself, there are about a dozen card counters, and about another 30 from out of town. That means about 40 in the nation! This guy is utterly clueless.
> Did anyone catch the new show on the Travel Channel
> called Vegas Scams and Cheats 2006? In typical
> fashion, the show included a piece about advantage
> players. When are they going to learn we are not
> associated with scammers and cheaters?
> I was thoroughly amused when one so-called expert
> stated that in the town of Vegas itself, there are
> about a dozen card counters, and about another 30 from
> out of town. That means about 40 in the nation! This
> guy is utterly clueless.
Actually, if we are talking about full time high stakes pros who have the skills and the bankroll to actually do significant damage to a casino's bottom line, I'd say he's in the ballpark.
BTW, this is Vegas Week on the Travel Channel, with Vegas-related programming on every night. I'm watching it right now.
> Actually, if we are talking about full time high
> stakes pros who have the skills and the bankroll to
> actually do damage to a casino' bottom line, I'd say
> he's in the ballpark.
> BTW, this is Vegas Week on the Travel Channel, with
> Vegas-related programming on every night. I'm watching
> it right now.
I thought the little segment on card counting was done more to my liking than past ones. The number of counters stated seems to make casino paranoia look ridiculous.
I have always thought the worsening of rules in blackjack had nothing to do with advantage players and everything to do with casinos trying to increase their edge against every player. You can not expect the casinos to be honest and say, "we just want more money faster from the public," so they blame us. Maybe now the public will look at some of these game changes differently after watching a show where they stated there might be 40 good players out there and not buy the casino line of BS.
I know, wishful thinking.
Victoria
> I thought the little segment on card counting was done
> more to my liking than past ones. The number of
> counters stated seems to make casino paranoia look
> ridiculous.
> I have always thought the worsening of rules in
> blackjack had nothing to do with advantage players and
> everything to do with casinos trying to increase their
> edge against every player. You can not expect the
> casinos to be honest and say, "we just want more
> money faster from the public," so they blame us.
> Maybe now the public will look at some of these game
> changes differently after watching a show where they
> stated there might be 40 good players out there and
> not buy the casino line of BS.
> I know, wishful thinking.
> Victoria
The problem is the casinos have gotten additcted to slots. I consider slot machines to be more of an enemy of AP's than 6:5 or Mindplay. Everything other than slots is compared to slots and has to fight for its existence. At Foxwoods the two best BJ pits in the place have been ripped out and replaced with banks of granny-bashers. There were a couple of banks of decent VP machines in the place- gone- replaced with slots. This is the largest casino in America and they can't find room to save a couple of pits of the classic casino game?
What has made it worse is that now slot machines are very inexpensive investments. The old reel spinners were a bit pricy because of the intricate mechanisms, but the new computerized slots are all the same except for one chip and the artwork on the front, so they're dirt cheap. They're all TITO now so you can dump your change people and save labor costs. Until people get bored or disgusted with slots opportunities are going to be evaporating.
> The problem is the casinos have gotten additcted to slots.
I don't play BJ on the beaten path, and I'll tell you, off the beaten path it is the same.
Used to be it was bingo, slots, and BJ. Then it became slots and BJ. Now, eveytime I go in it seems a new bank of slots has appeared.
Thank God for poker; they fit the BJ tables in and around the poker tables.
I just hope they don't do away with the dancing rooster you can play tick-tac-toe against for a dollar!
> I just hope they don't do away with the dancing
> rooster you can play tick-tac-toe against for a
> dollar!
If they do I'm done!
"this guy is utterly clueless."
I just watched the show. The "clueless" guy you speak of is Bill Zender. He is far from clueless. I believe you are clueless.
-Shaggy
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