i was 86 in a casino in las vegas; i have asked to those gentlemen business card; they were rude whothout education; now i receive offer to get back whit a free room in the same casino; any suggestion to retaliate; any possibilty for sueing
i was 86 in a casino in las vegas; i have asked to those gentlemen business card; they were rude whothout education; now i receive offer to get back whit a free room in the same casino; any suggestion to retaliate; any possibilty for sueing
Rudeness? The casino may honor the mail offer (or may not). While you can consider it an invite to return to the hotel, your mail invitation is NOT an invite to return to play blackjack. BTW, if you are recognized you could be 86'd again...keep a copy of the mail invite as evidence of your invitation to return to the casino.
they were three people to tell me they 86 me; i asked them for identification for a business card for explanation; they refused every demand; it is what i callled no education; and now this same casino invite me again free; like a mouse trap; i will go and they will put me in jail; i do not know the law; as an example if i tell you not to come to my house again for whatever the reason and a few months later i invite you again; what will you think; for sure sueing for that in canada it is not possible but in usa i do not know
> i was 86 in a casino in las vegas; i have
> asked to those gentlemen business card; they
> were rude whothout education; now i receive
> offer to get back whit a free room in the
> same casino; any suggestion to retaliate;
> any possibilty for sueing
Sue, retaliate? What is it they did?
1. They sent you a flyer for a free room.
2. They kicked you out...
3. oh, yeah, they were rude.
They sent you a flyer that they may or may not allow. That "could" be breach of contract if they don't honor it, but seeing they gave you the no trespess act before you got it, that would nullify that. I would think the marketing department hadn't been notified of your barring and it came through an automatic mailing.
As for kicking you out. In Nevada, this is perfectly legal...no recourse there. Unless they physically assaulted you, they have the law on their side.
Now, the rude part. With most people dealing with storekeeppers that are rude...those patrons simply wouldn't want to return.
As for "sueing" or "retaliating", you could, but I'd think you'd look pretty silly.
I suggest you stay away for 6 months or so and slide back in and start over...and throw away the "free room" mailer.
My 2 cents.
PM
Did they specificly read you the trespass act,or was it a matter of "I'm sorry sure no more,blah,blah,blackjack."
ther were very fast reading to me something but english is not my linguage so i asked them to explain me slowly; they refused; they have told this thing 86 and never comeback here; they have told me i muast know what it is 86; what is ridiculous it is the marketing invitation; those people have no education; in atlantic city they tell you politely; sir you can play but only flat betting; in canada we have law to protect us; it is called la charte des droits de la personne
In Nevada it is perfectly legal for them to kick you out for any reason (with a few specific exceptions such as race, religion, etc.) - or for no reason at all. There is no law that requires them to be polite about it, either.
As long as you were not illegally detained (backroomed) or physically abused, you have no grounds for a lawsuit.
"86" generally means that you are prohibited from entering the premises, and may be subject to arrest (for trespassing) if you do.
The marketing offer is nothing unusual. Often, the different departments in casinos do not communicate well with each other. You would probably run into trouble if you called them and tried to actually make a reservation.
Suggestion: If you do go and take advantage of the room offer sent to you, bring several copies and the original of the invitation that they sent you.
Years ago my uncle was tresspassed by a Vegas casino and shortly after received an invitiation for a free room and a tournament entry. He went, checked in and was at a video poker machine when a suit and two security types rudely told him that he would be arrested for entering the casino property. He showed them the letter and the guy in the suit went away and returned later to tell him he could stay but just not play blackjack. After he returned home, he was again tresspassed but by registered mail this time.
> In Nevada it is perfectly legal for them to
> kick you out for any reason (with a few
> specific exceptions such as race, religion,
> etc.) - or for no reason at all. There is no
> law that requires them to be polite about
> it, either.
> As long as you were not illegally detained
> (backroomed) or physically abused, you have
> no grounds for a lawsuit.
> "86" generally means that you are
> prohibited from entering the premises, and
> may be subject to arrest (for trespassing)
> if you do.
> The marketing offer is nothing unusual.
> Often, the different departments in casinos
> do not communicate well with each other. You
> would probably run into trouble if you
> called them and tried to actually make a
> reservation.
mr. parker and all the others thank you for your response; very intelligent answer from everybody; but in 2005 how come it is not possible in a country (usa) supposed to be more civilized than any other in this world to have law protecting the customers; true they do not want winners in their casino only stupid or drunk players; i can accept that; i have not met any good players and it is easy to spot the good one but this state nevada has to put law more respectful of the tourist of the gambler
> Suggestion: If you do go and take advantage
> of the room offer sent to you, bring several
> copies and the original of the invitation
> that they sent you.
> Years ago my uncle was tresspassed by a
> Vegas casino and shortly after received an
> invitiation for a free room and a tournament
> entry. He went, checked in and was at a
> video poker machine when a suit and two
> security types rudely told him that he would
> be arrested for entering the casino
> property. He showed them the letter and the
> guy in the suit went away and returned later
> to tell him he could stay but just not play
> blackjack. After he returned home, he was
> again tresspassed but by registered mail
> this time.
I have never tried to take advantage of a comp from a place where I have been previously tossed, despite the fact that a couple of such places continue to send me juicy offers.
While I agree that the presence of the offer would make it difficult for them to enforce a trespassing arrest, there still would be a definite possibility of being evicted from the room in the middle of the night, something that I'd just as soon avoid.
Besides, such antics tend to create lasting memories. I'd rather take my barring quietly, pass up any subsequent comp offers, and return a few months later on a different shift with a different look and a different name.
Parker
I agree with you, but it does kind of run in the family. Will not go into more detail or someone will figure out who I am.
Anyway, my uncle gets a thrill out of these kinds of situations, especially when he is prepared.
Victoria
> I have never tried to take advantage of a
> comp from a place where I have been
> previously tossed, despite the fact that a
> couple of such places continue to send me
> juicy offers.
> While I agree that the presence of the offer
> would make it difficult for them to enforce
> a trespassing arrest, there still would be a
> definite possibility of being evicted from
> the room in the middle of the night,
> something that I'd just as soon avoid.
> Besides, such antics tend to create lasting
> memories. I'd rather take my barring
> quietly, pass up any subsequent comp offers,
> and return a few months later on a different
> shift with a different look and a different
> name.
It is totally a rumor that Nevada is in the U.S. and subject to the same laws.
The casinos pay all the bills, control the jobs and make the rules (laws).
Not to leave out our Native American casinos where again you might think you are in the U.S. but are really in Indian country.
Victoria
mr parker; interesting; for identity they use the drivers licence or other officials cards; i know ian andersen book; but if you a false identity like a false driver`s licence i think we will have a big problem; it is totally illegal to have a false identity; if in nevada the casinos make the law may be they can put you for three years in guantanamo or another place like that during the investigation before the trial; the fine may be very high; any opinion
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