Jackie Chiles: $3,500 IRS barrier - any ideas?

[Don Schlesinger]

> Okay. Your post zeros in on what my original
> post should have focused on: How in the
> world to discourage attention and maintain
> anonymity when you are hovering around the
> $3,000.00 level. If you are asked for ID
> what are your options and what are the
> ramifications of using each of the options?
> Just how far can the casinos push the
> matter? Are there ways to wiggle out of the
> situation without making a scene and
> actually attracting even more attention? I
> just want to blend in and not stand out in
> any way.

Many casinos are quite large with multiple cashier windows and several different pits, sometimes with completely different cashier (cage) areas.

You don't have to cash all your chips at once. Or, all on the same shift. Or, all on the same day.

Use your imagination.

Don

[Sun Runner]

> What if it's covered with sweat from heat from the pit critters?

PCs sweat blood, or did'nt you notice.

[Jackie Chiles]

Mr. Schlesinger:

I guess I'm confused as to just who does what in this area. The scenario you describe is pretty much that described by Max Rubin on page 141 of his book, "Comp City." Sure, a player can cash in chips in increments and go to different cages. I started doing this back in my red chip days - I think I have always been paranoid!

I am concerned about all this because after years of red chip play and two years of green chip play I am going to move up to green/black chip play. It's a little scary, and I am all too aware that one mistake can mean big trouble.

My concern is over the pit boss asking for ID. Are you saying that they just don't do this, that they leave all this regulation stuff to the cage personnel? I have played at tables with guys buying in for five figures with a line of credit (I have never done this myself) and all I remember was that they had to sign the usual marker paperwork. I should have been looking ahead and been more observant. Anyway, Don, if you or anybody else knows just what to expect on the floor itself, not at the cage, regarding the FORCED production of ID - that's the key phrase to my inquiry, I would greatly appreciate hearing some advice.

Jackie Chiles

[Parker]

No pitboss can legally force you to show ID. Worst case scenario is that they ask you for ID, you refuse, and you are escorted off the premises.

A pitboss will not normally even ask you for ID, unless you happen to be blessed with a youthful appearance (or bear an uncanny resemblance to Tommy Hyland). They will ask for a player's card, you tell them you don't have one, they ask if you would like one, you say no, dealer deals, end of story.

You are stressing way too much over this for the stakes you are playing.

[methodman]

...well there are so many other dangers
sharks are the least of all worries in surfing...just like Parker says..with the id....least of all worries.

[Jackie Chiles]

I guess I could say that I would rather stress now than not know what to do later! Thanks for the advice. I would never show ID anyway - I think my attitude is obvious from my postings - but I just wanted to know if other players had experiences with pit personnel using the law to bully their way into getting something that is none of their business.

[bigplayer]

Therefore, you don't need my license.