I just read about the closing of the Shoe. It is a sad day indeed.
I just read about the closing of the Shoe. It is a sad day indeed.
It didn't close down entirely - the hotel and restaurants are still open. The IRS closed down all gaming last night, telling all gamblers to turn in their chips at 7:30 and kicking everyone off of the machines. They also seized cash from the cages. This is in relation to unpaid employee union funds. Link to LV Sun below.
Bettie
The Review-Journal story has a lot of information that the Sun did not have.
Glad to see this dump finally go. But a boarded-up building on Fremont Street will not be as bad as a Harrah's would be.
Of course. :-)
While the place has certainly gone downhill under Becky's tenure, it is still a shame to see it close. The Horseshoe has been a downtown landmark for over half a century. This was the first downtown "carpet joint," the first to offer high-stakes betting, the first to comp slot players . . . the list goes on and on. It is a part of Las Vegas history.
I don't think that a closed, boarded-up property in the heart of downtown is good for Las Vegas, the advantage player community, or anyone else.
Furthermore, while it may be closed at the moment, I wouldn't completely write off the Horseshoe just yet. The Horseshoe has a lot going for it, and with competent management could be a profitable property.
If Jackie Gaughan can find a buyer for his dumps, there must be several investors with an interest in the 'Shoe, if the price is right. This ain't over.
Parker is 100% correct.
It was the only single deck game in Vegas that did not sweat green/black action. Why should we be pleased with its demise?
I too found that some of the best sessions I ever had came at the cost of the Shoe. They never sweated me, I consistently recieved good penetration, and the atmosphere was a refreshing shift from the glitz of the strip. I wouldn't have wanted to live there, but it was a great place to visit. The Shoe was one of the last places to carry a decent single deck game in Vegas. The departure brings us one step closer to the extinction of single deck, the most classic element of our game.
I see the closure as a much larger issue than just an inept family member running the family business into the ground. The closing is a very symbolic movement further into the abyss of carnival games. The paranoia stirred by Thorpe has steadily brought us more blackjack tables, and less playable blackjack conditions. It is a most unfortunate occurence when one of the last clubs to actually offer several single deck games without carnival revisions closes its doors.
HJ
...the only way I'd go back is if Jack Binion or some other owner who knows what to do runs it. That leaves out Harrahs in my opinion.
I haven't been there for three years. I don't like or trust gambling in casinos on shaky financial ground.
> Parker is 100% correct.
> It was the only single deck game in Vegas
> that did not sweat green/black action. Why
> should we be pleased with its demise?
I'm with you but for a different reason. Those of us who are not green chippers have far fewer choices for our play. Binion's was definitely one of them.
Here is a link to the Review-Journal Sunday column on the Horseshoe. Lots of interesting quotes in it.
Binions had some of the best games in Nevada and the best crap games on this planet.Does anyone remember when Benny would play Santa for a few days before Christmas?Blackjacks would be payed at 2 to 1.The catch was it only applied to bets five dollars or less.Still,you could relax,not count,flat bet 5 bucks,and grind out 8 or 10 dollars an hour.Can you imagine any club doing that today?
> the grand caper was playing there last week////
and betting $7 flat bets for a while then cranking it to $506,and got three aces...
WHOA..
HELLO
shoe, nice decent casino but the management was run by the mob yes indeed,and they did sweat the cash too much...the greedy bastards
may or may not open again..
"Treat people right and the rest will take care of itself."
-Benny Binion
Unfortunately those days have been long over.
> I just read about the closing of the Shoe.
> It is a sad day indeed.
Plain and simple.
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