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Phil: Best Casino(s) for Comps
What're the best casinos on the Strip (or Off-Strip) and Downtown if you're playing strictly for comps (i.e. basic strategy player not counting).
What avg. bet size do you need for food/bev and what avg. bet size do you need for room?
Thanks,
Phil
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Nifty_49: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
> What're the best casinos on the Strip (or
> Off-Strip) and Downtown if you're playing
> strictly for comps (i.e. basic strategy
> player not counting).
> What avg. bet size do you need for food/bev
> and what avg. bet size do you need for room?
> Thanks,
> Phil
You might want to take a look at the book "The Frugal Gambler" By Scott. Its only about ten bucks (I bought it here) and has some of the info I think you are looking for.
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Marc: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
Phil - IMHO, your best bet is the MGM/Mirage properties at least as far as strip goes. They own MGM, New York New York, Boardwalk, Golden Nugget, TI (nee Treasure Island), Bellagio and Mirage. Your best strategy is to spend ALL of your money (room, food, entertainment, gambling, etc. at these properties and ALWAYS charge EVERYTHING to your room ...when gambling, ALWAYS use the "fun" card. The night before you check out go talk to the casino host and ask what comps you are entitled to....be assertive in asking for what you want...particularly if you have something in mind.
Here is a synoposis of my last trip:
1) stayed at a mini-suite with strip view high up the MGM grand tower.
2) went to the Mystere' show at Treasure Island
3) ate at Picasso's in Bellagio (perhaps the best resteraunt in Vegas)
4) ate at several other MGM/Mirage places
5) always drank in MGM/Mirage bars/lounges
6) always gambled at MGM places...casino host told me my average bet was $36.00 and my average session was 4 hours...this is really the key to all of the comps. - average bet, average session length. You can help elevate this by getting along with the pit boss and making sure when he is looking you are throwing out a decent sized bet.
Night before I checked out, I talked to the casino host..pretty nice guy. He immediately gave me my 3 nights hotel comped ($850) and gave me 1/2 my four Mystere tix ($175). I asked him what he could do about my Picassos dinner...he pulled up some info., etc. ended up giving me $400 off that bill as well. So I totaled over $1,400 in comps. which isn't too bad. With the positive action at the tables, we walked away with a virtually free trip. But, the only way to get this is to follow the rules above and to not be shy in asking...the buddy we were with forgot to use his card 1/2 the time, only charged about 1/2 his expenses to his room, etc...wasn't very assertive in asking - so he ended up with $130 in comps.
Hope this helps. Have fun!
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Coug It: RISKY
> Phil - IMHO, your best bet is the MGM/Mirage
> properties at least as far as strip goes.
> They own MGM, New York New York, Boardwalk,
> Golden Nugget, TI (nee Treasure Island),
> Bellagio and Mirage. Your best strategy is
> to spend ALL of your money (room, food,
> entertainment, gambling, etc. at these
> properties and ALWAYS charge EVERYTHING to
> your room ...when gambling, ALWAYS use the
> "fun" card. The night before you
> check out go talk to the casino host and ask
> what comps you are entitled to....be
> assertive in asking for what you
> want...particularly if you have something in
> mind.
> Here is a synoposis of my last trip:
> 1) stayed at a mini-suite with strip view
> high up the MGM grand tower.
> 2) went to the Mystere' show at Treasure
> Island
> 3) ate at Picasso's in Bellagio (perhaps the
> best resteraunt in Vegas)
> 4) ate at several other MGM/Mirage places
> 5) always drank in MGM/Mirage bars/lounges
> 6) always gambled at MGM places...casino
> host told me my average bet was $36.00 and
> my average session was 4 hours...this is
> really the key to all of the comps. -
> average bet, average session length. You can
> help elevate this by getting along with the
> pit boss and making sure when he is looking
> you are throwing out a decent sized bet.
> Night before I checked out, I talked to the
> casino host..pretty nice guy. He immediately
> gave me my 3 nights hotel comped ($850) and
> gave me 1/2 my four Mystere tix ($175). I
> asked him what he could do about my Picassos
> dinner...he pulled up some info., etc. ended
> up giving me $400 off that bill as well. So
> I totaled over $1,400 in comps. which isn't
> too bad. With the positive action at the
> tables, we walked away with a virtually free
> trip. But, the only way to get this is to
> follow the rules above and to not be shy in
> asking...the buddy we were with forgot to
> use his card 1/2 the time, only charged
> about 1/2 his expenses to his room,
> etc...wasn't very assertive in asking - so
> he ended up with $130 in comps.
> Hope this helps. Have fun!
You could be in for a rude awakening using this tactic. Going to shows and expensive dinners where you may or may not receive comp. credit could put a big dent in your bankroll.
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Marc: Re: RISKY
I understand your point. I am not a comp. junkie...whether comp'd or not, we would see shows and eat at the better restaraunts. For us, those entertainment options are as big a part of our Vegas experience as the poker and bj....so I am not eating Picassos counting on comps...that is just a nice perk at the end.
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methodman: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
> And then when then find out your a decent player and throw you out in the middle of the night and alert other prperties so you can not even get a hotel;well it still be worth it..
DOUBT IT..
.
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dd: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
> Phil - IMHO, your best bet is the MGM/Mirage
> properties at least as far as strip goes.
> They own MGM, New York New York, Boardwalk,
> Golden Nugget, TI (nee Treasure Island),
> Bellagio and Mirage. Your best strategy is
> to spend ALL of your money (room, food,
> entertainment, gambling, etc. at these
> properties and ALWAYS charge EVERYTHING to
> your room ...when gambling, ALWAYS use the
> "fun" card. The night before you
> check out go talk to the casino host and ask
> what comps you are entitled to....be
> assertive in asking for what you
> want...particularly if you have something in
> mind.
> Here is a synoposis of my last trip:
> 1) stayed at a mini-suite with strip view
> high up the MGM grand tower.
> 2) went to the Mystere' show at Treasure
> Island
> 3) ate at Picasso's in Bellagio (perhaps the
> best resteraunt in Vegas)
> 4) ate at several other MGM/Mirage places
> 5) always drank in MGM/Mirage bars/lounges
> 6) always gambled at MGM places...casino
> host told me my average bet was $36.00 and
> my average session was 4 hours...this is
> really the key to all of the comps. -
> average bet, average session length. You can
> help elevate this by getting along with the
> pit boss and making sure when he is looking
> you are throwing out a decent sized bet.
> Night before I checked out, I talked to the
> casino host..pretty nice guy. He immediately
> gave me my 3 nights hotel comped ($850) and
> gave me 1/2 my four Mystere tix ($175). I
> asked him what he could do about my Picassos
> dinner...he pulled up some info., etc. ended
> up giving me $400 off that bill as well. So
> I totaled over $1,400 in comps. which isn't
> too bad. With the positive action at the
> tables, we walked away with a virtually free
> trip. But, the only way to get this is to
> follow the rules above and to not be shy in
> asking...the buddy we were with forgot to
> use his card 1/2 the time, only charged
> about 1/2 his expenses to his room,
> etc...wasn't very assertive in asking - so
> he ended up with $130 in comps.
> Hope this helps. Have fun!
How many hours of actual BJ did you play? Seems like a lot of comps for a small player. 15 hours a day or more for 3 days?
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Marc: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
I was somewhat surprised as well. Played 3 sessions a day (morning, afternoon, late night) at 4 hours/session. One day played four sessions. We did spend a bundle on food between all of their properties.
It was, by far, the best comp. trip I have ever had...yet my play was not much different. $10-$150. On BJ, ended up on the positive overall by $1,800. On the dice (playing only the come/not come and taking odds), I ended down $400...so the net was positive.
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doubledown: Re: Best Casino(s) for Comps
> Phil - IMHO, your best bet is the MGM/Mirage
> properties at least as far as strip goes.
> They own MGM, New York New York, Boardwalk,
> Golden Nugget, TI (nee Treasure Island),
> Bellagio and Mirage. Your best strategy is
> to spend ALL of your money (room, food,
> entertainment, gambling, etc. at these
> properties and ALWAYS charge EVERYTHING to
> your room ...when gambling, ALWAYS use the
> "fun" card. The night before you
> check out go talk to the casino host and ask
> what comps you are entitled to....be
> assertive in asking for what you
> want...particularly if you have something in
> mind.
> Here is a synoposis of my last trip:
> 1) stayed at a mini-suite with strip view
> high up the MGM grand tower.
> 2) went to the Mystere' show at Treasure
> Island
> 3) ate at Picasso's in Bellagio (perhaps the
> best resteraunt in Vegas)
> 4) ate at several other MGM/Mirage places
> 5) always drank in MGM/Mirage bars/lounges
> 6) always gambled at MGM places...casino
> host told me my average bet was $36.00 and
> my average session was 4 hours...this is
> really the key to all of the comps. -
> average bet, average session length. You can
> help elevate this by getting along with the
> pit boss and making sure when he is looking
> you are throwing out a decent sized bet.
> Night before I checked out, I talked to the
> casino host..pretty nice guy. He immediately
> gave me my 3 nights hotel comped ($850) and
> gave me 1/2 my four Mystere tix ($175). I
> asked him what he could do about my Picassos
> dinner...he pulled up some info., etc. ended
> up giving me $400 off that bill as well. So
> I totaled over $1,400 in comps. which isn't
> too bad. With the positive action at the
> tables, we walked away with a virtually free
> trip. But, the only way to get this is to
> follow the rules above and to not be shy in
> asking...the buddy we were with forgot to
> use his card 1/2 the time, only charged
> about 1/2 his expenses to his room,
> etc...wasn't very assertive in asking - so
> he ended up with $130 in comps.
> Hope this helps. Have fun!
I just received marketing from Teasure Island for 3 free nights in a deluxe room. The comp offer is based on your play. I was curious so I called casino marketing to see how much I had to play and at what rate. Marketing told me 4 hours a day and a rate of $72.00 per hand. Still can't figure out how you received all these comps. Did you drop a bundle? Casino host probally does not have a job after giving all this away for such small action!
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Parker: More info needed
> What're the best casinos on the Strip (or
> Off-Strip) and Downtown if you're playing
> strictly for comps (i.e. basic strategy
> player not counting).
Hard to say. The best comp house for someone whose average bet is, say, $200 would be totally different than for a red chip bettor.
> What avg. bet size do you need for food/bev
> and what avg. bet size do you need for room?
Naturally, the bigger and more elegant the hotel/casino, the tighter the comps. In general, comps downtown are easier than on the strip.
A few hours with a $10 average bet will get you a coffee shop or buffet comp just about anywhere downtown, and at the smaller strip properties.
Solid green action ($50-$75 average bet) will get you just about anything downtown (except possibly at the Golden Nugget).
Room comps are actually easier to get than gourmet restaurant comps, except during big conventions, special events (Super Bowl) or holiday weekends.
As others have mentioned, there are a couple of good books on comps available:
The Frugal Gambler by Jean Scott
Comp City by Max Rubin
The Frugal Gambler is primarily aimed at red chip level players, while Comp City is for the better bankrolled bettor. Both have been recently updated.
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pat: marc,no way
> Hard to say. The best comp house for someone
> whose average bet is, say, $200 would be
> totally different than for a red chip
> bettor.
> Naturally, the bigger and more elegant the
> hotel/casino, the tighter the comps. In
> general, comps downtown are easier than on
> the strip.
> A few hours with a $10 average bet will get
> you a coffee shop or buffet comp just about
> anywhere downtown, and at the smaller strip
> properties.
> Solid green action ($50-$75 average bet)
> will get you just about anything downtown
> (except possibly at the Golden Nugget).
> Room comps are actually easier to get than
> gourmet restaurant comps, except during big
> conventions, special events (Super Bowl) or
> holiday weekends.
> As others have mentioned, there are a couple
> of good books on comps available:
> The Frugal Gambler by Jean Scott
> Comp City by Max Rubin
> The Frugal Gambler is primarily aimed at
> red chip level players, while Comp City is
> for the better bankrolled bettor. Both have
> been recently updated.
your leaving something out.36.00 bettors dont get those kinds of comps at the mirage properties.they are tight as hell.
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Marc: Re: marc,no way
Perhaps I got "lucky" with the casino host...but that is what I got. My total play in 3-1/2 days was approx. 35 hours + my wife's approx. 15 hours. I was a bit surprised as well as normally I will get my room comped only regardless of MGM or PPE, etc. Interestingly, since that trip in early March, I have received some significantly attractive offers from MGM including suites for up to 3 days, Tabu table, etc. via email and USPS. I get the impression that the strip is hurting vs. previous trips and perhaps the offers are a bit better. I did spend 2 hours at Binions during the same trip at a SD table and wasn't offered Jack----. In fact, it took over 30 minutes to get a waitress and over 30 minutes to cash out...brutal atmosphere - preferred the SD at Boardwalk though pen. was no better at the SD games.
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