Battery: Blackjack Ettiquette?

[Battery]

I was one of three players enjoying moderate success at a Horseshoe SD game around noon on Thanksgiving Day when a gentleman(?) joined us and started to cough and hack. He was making an attempt to turn around and cover his mouth but you knew as soon as he touched his cards the rest of us were in trouble.

What would you have done?
1. Immediately left the table.
2. Stayed and hoped the dealer said something.
3. Called for the pit boss and asked for him to tell the jackass to go buy some cough medicine.
4. Nothing
5. Muttered "you SOB" just loud enough for him to hear and then left the table

The other SD tables were pretty full at the time.

I tried option 2 for a few minutes and then went for option 5. I should be rid of my cold and cough in another day or two.

[Wildcard]

> I was one of three players enjoying moderate
> success at a Horseshoe SD game around noon
> on Thanksgiving Day when a gentleman(?)
> joined us and started to cough and hack. He
> was making an attempt to turn around and
> cover his mouth but you knew as soon as he
> touched his cards the rest of us were in
> trouble.

> What would you have done? 1. Immediately
> left the table.
> 2. Stayed and hoped the dealer said
> something.
> 3. Called for the pit boss and asked for him
> to tell the jackass to go buy some cough
> medicine.
> 4. Nothing
> 5. Muttered "you SOB" just loud
> enough for him to hear and then left the
> table

> The other SD tables were pretty full at the
> time.

> I tried option 2 for a few minutes and then
> went for option 5. I should be rid of my
> cold and cough in another day or two.

Well, I'm normally pretty laid back, but when it comes to cigars (barely tolerate cigarettes) and illnesses, I speak up. I may have (after the first obvious cough) said something clear enough for the cougher to understand like..."I hope whatever you've got isn't going to infect all of us". Perhaps followed by "you know we all touch the cards"...

If that fell on deaf ears, I would have gone for the full-Monty, with asking him to find another table to play at, I'm here for a week and don't want to get sick.

When that doesn't work I'd leave the table with coloring up and at least a laser look at bozo. I must admit, I may toss in a mutter or two, but you then run the risk of getting into a shouting match. Better to just leave and find another table or casino. Jerks are everywhere!

Regards,
Wildcard

[Moose]

.. still giving crappy Ro5 pen on SD and ruining the joint with tip-hustling galore?

C.

[joe_r_black]

I'll have to remember this one. I usually sit at 3rd base and hit a stiff against a dealer 5 or 6 and take the dealer's bust card to clear the table.

Joe Black

> I was one of three players enjoying moderate
> success at a Horseshoe SD game around noon
> on Thanksgiving Day when a gentleman(?)
> joined us and started to cough and hack. He
> was making an attempt to turn around and
> cover his mouth but you knew as soon as he
> touched his cards the rest of us were in
> trouble.

> What would you have done? 1. Immediately
> left the table.
> 2. Stayed and hoped the dealer said
> something.
> 3. Called for the pit boss and asked for him
> to tell the jackass to go buy some cough
> medicine.
> 4. Nothing
> 5. Muttered "you SOB" just loud
> enough for him to hear and then left the
> table

> The other SD tables were pretty full at the
> time.

> I tried option 2 for a few minutes and then
> went for option 5. I should be rid of my
> cold and cough in another day or two.

[Parker]

> .. still giving crappy Ro5 pen on SD and
> ruining the joint with tip-hustling galore?

Not at all. Pen is generally rule of six, although only four rounds are dealt heads-up (hint - play two hands when heads-up).

Dealers are back to pooling tokes, so the tip-hustling has for the most part vanished. Of course, this means that some dealers have reverted to their former surly selves. However, any 'Shoe regular knows that there are certain dealer to seek out and certain others to avoid at any cost. It has always been this way.

The pits on the west (former Mint) side have been removed and replaced with slots. The cashier cage on that side is also closed.

Gee Joon (the Chinese restaurant) has been closed on my last few visits. No one seems to know if this is permanent.

They have added an Asian specialties menu to the coffee shop menu. The coffee shop is back in the basement where it belongs, and is as good as ever (excellent BBQ ribs). Nothing ever seems to change at the Steak House - excellent as always.

Blackjack continues as usual in the east (original) side. With the west pit gone, it can be quite crowded on weekends.

They are having a drawing tomorrow night (Dec 11) at which they are going to "open Benny's Vault" and give away some silver. Oscar Goodman (Las Vegas Mayor) will be there.

[Battery]

> .. still giving crappy Ro5 pen on SD and
> ruining the joint with tip-hustling galore?

Yes, one dealer even announced that since there were four players at the table, he would have to shuffle after every two hands.

I saw absolutely no tip hustling.

[zengrifter]

> I usually
> sit at 3rd base and hit a stiff against a
> dealer 5 or 6 and take the dealer's bust
> card to clear the table.

Splitting 10s is a healthier way of accomplishing a clearing - a couple of times w/small bets against 3 or 7, should do it AND establish you as a "crazy 10s splitter" for when you really want to do it. zg

[Doug]

Please define 'tip hustling'?

[SOTSOG]

> Please define 'tip hustling'?

TIP:

NOUN:
1. A small sum of money given to someone for performing a service; a gratuity.
2a. A piece of confidential, advance, or inside information: got a tip on the next race.
b. A helpful hint: a column of tips on gardening. VERB: Inflected forms: tipped, tip?ping, tips
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1a. To give a tip to: tipped the waiter generously.
b. To give as a tip: He tipped a dollar and felt that it was enough.
2. To provide with a piece of confidential, advance, or inside information: a disgruntled gang member who tipped the police to the planned robbery.
INTRANSITIVE VERB: To give tips or a tip: one who tips lavishly.

HUSTLING:

VERB: Inflected forms: hus?tled, hus?tling, hus?tles
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To jostle or shove roughly.
2. To convey in a hurried or rough manner: hustled the prisoner into a van.
3. To cause or urge to proceed quickly: hustled the board into a quick decision.
4. To gain by energetic effort: hustled a hot lunch.
5. Slang a. To sell or get by questionable or aggressive means: hustled stolen watches; hustling spare change.
b. To pressure into buying or doing something: a barfly hustling the other customers for drinks. c. To misrepresent one's skill in (a game or activity) in order to deceive someone, especially in gambling: hustle pool.
INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To jostle and push.
2. To work or move energetically and rapidly: We hustled to get dinner ready on time.
3. To act aggressively, especially in business dealings.
4. Slang a. To obtain something by deceitful or illicit means; practice theft or swindling.
b. To solicit customers. Used of a pimp or prostitute.
c. To misrepresent one's ability in order to deceive someone, especially in gambling.
NOUN: 1. The act or an instance of jostling or shoving.
2. Energetic activity; drive.
3. Slang An illicit or unethical way of doing business or obtaining money; a fraud or deceit: ?the most dangerous and wide-open drug hustle of them all? (Newsweek).

[pat]

> Splitting 10s is a healthier way of
> accomplishing a clearing - a couple of times
> w/small bets against 3 or 7, should do it
> AND establish you as a "crazy 10s
> splitter" for when you really want to
> do it. zg
some examples would be: "why dont you put 5 bucks up there for me" "you win i win" "your only going to bet a dollar" those were my favs and all spoken from a binion dealer when they kept their own.when did they stop keeping their own?

[Moose]

> Please define 'tip hustling'?

SOTSOG's definition isn't so bad, but it's missing a key part: "q.v. 'beg'"

Tip hustling really is no more than begging. At the lowest levels, it's subtle innuendo like when they give you 10 silver dollars when you buy in at a $5 table and you don't ask. At the Horseshoe, it amounts to dealer's blatantly asking for a tip ("How about a bet for the crew?"). Dealers at the 'Shoe have been witnessed (by myself, in fact) to make change for drunken craps players and make bets for the dealers while they're giving the player their money.

It ranks right up there with suggestive sales tactics as one of the most obnoxious things that money makes people do.

M.

[Igor]