Bettie: Interesting Black Book Info

[Bettie]

An article in today's R-J states that "state gaming regulators are slated to decide today whether to nominate a convicted slot-machine cheat for inclusion in the state's Black Book, the list of people barred from entering Nevada's 339 casinos".

Okay, so he's a slot cheat; that's not our gig. BUT, it goes on to say a few interesting facts about the book, such as it is "the state's 36-person list of excluded persons".

Just 36, hunh? Maybe this comes as no surprise to most of you, but I was under the impression that it was a bit longer than that. Not hundreds, mind you, just longer than 36.

It goes on to say that "of the 36 people listed in the Black Book, 14 have been added since January 1997". Heck, it even lists a couple of names. So, is the book public, and where can I see the names?

Thanks,
Bettie

[Parker]

> An article in today's R-J states that
> "state gaming regulators are slated to
> decide today whether to nominate a convicted
> slot-machine cheat for inclusion in the
> state's Black Book, the list of people
> barred from entering Nevada's 339
> casinos".

> Okay, so he's a slot cheat; that's not our
> gig. BUT, it goes on to say a few
> interesting facts about the book, such as it
> is "the state's 36-person list of
> excluded persons".

> Just 36, hunh? Maybe this comes as no
> surprise to most of you, but I was under the
> impression that it was a bit longer than
> that. Not hundreds, mind you, just longer
> than 36.

> It goes on to say that "of the 36
> people listed in the Black Book, 14 have
> been added since January 1997". Heck,
> it even lists a couple of names. So, is the
> book public, and where can I see the names?

> Thanks,
> Bettie

It's not only public, it's online. Link below.

Wholesome looking bunch. :-)

GCB Excluded Person List

[Don Schlesinger]

> It's not only public, it's online. Link
> below.

> Wholesome looking bunch. :-)

Congrats to the lone woman, at the end! Wonder how many murders among them. :-)

Don

[Rambler]

[fulltimer]

>
Which gal is you>>>>

An article in today's R-J states that
> "state gaming regulators are slated to
> decide today whether to nominate a convicted
> slot-machine cheat for inclusion in the
> state's Black Book, the list of people
> barred from entering Nevada's 339
> casinos".

> Okay, so he's a slot cheat; that's not our
> gig. BUT, it goes on to say a few
> interesting facts about the book, such as it
> is "the state's 36-person list of
> excluded persons".

> Just 36, hunh? Maybe this comes as no
> surprise to most of you, but I was under the
> impression that it was a bit longer than
> that. Not hundreds, mind you, just longer
> than 36.

> It goes on to say that "of the 36
> people listed in the Black Book, 14 have
> been added since January 1997". Heck,
> it even lists a couple of names. So, is the
> book public, and where can I see the names?

> Thanks,
> Bettie

[Sun Runner]

The Travel Channel had a show on last night about casino cheats.

One guy says he is serving life without parole for "cheating". Another guy seems to be in and out on recurring 2 to 5 year beefs.

Why the disparity and is it really possible to become a "lifer" simply for cheating in a casino?

SR

[Parker]

> The Travel Channel had a show on last night
> about casino cheats.

> One guy says he is serving life without
> parole for "cheating". Another guy
> seems to be in and out on recurring 2 to 5
> year beefs.

> Why the disparity and is it really possible
> to become a "lifer" simply for
> cheating in a casino?

Laws vary considerably from state to state. Not surprisingly, Nevada takes casino cheating seriously, and just about any form of casino cheating is a felony.

In addition, several states (such as California) have "three strikes" laws - three felony convictions and you automatically get life. I do not know if Nevada has such a law on the books.

[Bettie]

[Coug Fan]

> In addition, several states (such as
> California) have "three strikes"
> laws - three felony convictions and you
> automatically get life. I do not know if
> Nevada has such a law on the books.

I believe that in most states only certain felonies qualify as 3 strikes offenses and that these are typically violent crimes, which would not include most cheating cases. From the show, it sounds like Nevada looks at casino cheats the same way that most states look at serial child rapists (or worse).

I was shocked to hear on that show about the slot cheat who was locked up for life. They had one official on there who basically said that since the casino's provide most of the tax revenue, they get to make up the laws. Pretty scary. You would think that there would be more consistency between states regarding the punishment for grand theft.

[Parker]

> I believe that in most states only certain
> felonies qualify as 3 strikes offenses and
> that these are typically violent crimes,
> which would not include most cheating cases.

You'd be believing wrong, at least in California. We have one guy serving 25-life for stealing $150 worth of videotapes, to name just one example.

[Coug Fan]

> You'd be believing wrong, at least in
> California. We have one guy serving 25-life
> for stealing $150 worth of videotapes, to
> name just one example.

Interesting. I was referring to Washington state where I KNOW that only certain felonies are classified as 3 strikes offenses and I BELIEVE that these are primarily violent felonies.

BTW, I believe that your example is not really a three strikes example since 3 strikes refers to life imprisonment, not 25-life sentences (unless California uses a different definition of "3 strikes", which is possible).

[Parker]

> Interesting. I was referring to Washington
> state where I KNOW that only certain
> felonies are classified as 3 strikes
> offenses and I BELIEVE that these are
> primarily violent felonies.

> BTW, I believe that your example is not
> really a three strikes example since 3
> strikes refers to life imprisonment, not
> 25-life sentences (unless California uses a
> different definition of "3
> strikes", which is possible).

We're getting way off topic here, so let's just end this with a link to a story in today's San Diego Union-Tribune discussing the CA law.

Three Strike Merits

[jarrett40]

it is the infrequency which it is updated.At least 2 of these people have been dead for over 20 years[Tony Civella & Marshall Caifano]. Louis Tom Dragna has been dead for 40 years.

jarrett40 > It's not only public, it's online. Link
> below.

> Wholesome looking bunch. :-)