it's been too long since my reno trip. what are the typical conditions? single decks i believe. double on 9,10,11? das? good or bad trip to take?
i think i recall the $25 min tables have some favorable rule that the $5, $10 tables don't?
thanks
it's been too long since my reno trip. what are the typical conditions? single decks i believe. double on 9,10,11? das? good or bad trip to take?
i think i recall the $25 min tables have some favorable rule that the $5, $10 tables don't?
thanks
> it's been too long since my reno trip. what are the
> typical conditions? single decks i believe. double on
> 9,10,11? das?
All the playable games are SD. No das, and the bigger casinos generally have D10 at the $5 and $10 min tables. Sometimes you can get DOA at the $25 tables.
You can find $5 DOA tables at the Sienna and Atlantis; also, the Silver Club in Sparks; Bonanza up the hill (definitely a locals joint, it's hard to blend in); and Boomtown at the California/Nevada border.
> good or bad trip to take?
Depends on your stakes and how close you are to Reno. You have options at the green chip level (Although you'd want to skip all the casinos named above except the Atlantis unless you're playing reds) but of course you'll get more heat, too.
best of luck,
M
If you agree that a D9 SD game is better than a good shoe game, all of the SD in the Reno area is playable. It's mostly SD and there are a couple of playable DD games around too. Hard to find a shoe.
The biggest issue with SD is not winning but being allowed to play, so I would recommend spreading yourself around. I've been douched out of a dozen stores in the area but they don't seem to communicate with one another very well.
The second biggest issue with SD is crowds, crowds, crowds. You can't make any money with more than 2 other people at the table so I would avoid holidays and prime times at all costs. All of the stores Myooligan mentioned are worth visiting in my opinion.
Two places to avoid are: Rail City in Sparks (major sweat), and the Cal-Neva downtown (cheating dealers, cheats in the poker room, bad playing conditions).
> If you agree that a D9 SD game is better than a good
> shoe game, all of the SD in the Reno area is playable.
> It's mostly SD and there are a couple of playable DD
> games around too. Hard to find a shoe.
> The biggest issue with SD is not winning but being
> allowed to play, so I would recommend spreading
> yourself around. I've been douched out of a dozen
> stores in the area but they don't seem to communicate
> with one another very well.
> The second biggest issue with SD is crowds, crowds,
> crowds. You can't make any money with more than 2
> other people at the table so I would avoid holidays
> and prime times at all costs. All of the stores
> Myooligan mentioned are worth visiting in my opinion.
> Two places to avoid are: Rail City in Sparks (major
> sweat), and the Cal-Neva downtown (cheating dealers,
> cheats in the poker room, bad playing conditions).
What about one deck wonging?
> What about one deck wonging?
SD Wonging is great. I use it in Vegas all the time. As AutoMonkey mentioned, a big problem will be the crowds. If there aren't any open spots, you can't play. If there are one or two open spots, you will only get 2-3 rounds anyway so you may only get one hand before the shuffle. Even if you find uncrowded tables, the count will change so rapidly in SD games that you won't have the advantage for more than 1-2 hands in a row.
The benefit of SD games is that the advantage comes very often, but it doesn't stay for long. That is why Wonging shoe games is usually much better. Once you find a hot shoe it will last much longer than a hot SD deck.
-Sonny-
> SD Wonging is great. I use it in Vegas all the time.
> As AutoMonkey mentioned, a big problem will be the
> crowds. If there aren't any open spots, you can't
> play. If there are one or two open spots, you will
> only get 2-3 rounds anyway so you may only get one
> hand before the shuffle. Even if you find uncrowded
> tables, the count will change so rapidly in SD games
> that you won't have the advantage for more than 1-2
> hands in a row.
> The benefit of SD games is that the advantage comes
> very often, but it doesn't stay for long. That is why
> Wonging shoe games is usually much better. Once you
> find a hot shoe it will last much longer than a hot SD
> deck.
> -Sonny-
k. With the crowds I thought it might be feasable, that u won't stand out... During the week is it crowded? What r the ppl like? Truck drivers? Why would anybody go there instead of Vegas unless they r counting or on business or a local?
> k. With the crowds I thought it might be feasable,
> that u won't stand out... During the week is it
> crowded?
I was in Reno in October, Sunday through Tuesday. Here is how I remember it: The good tables at the places with liberal rules generally had at least four players already sitting during prime time; not so much of a problem at the bigger casinos. Any other time of the day you should be able to find tables with 0-3 additional players anywhere.
What r the ppl like?
Everyday Joes, skiers, locals, people from Sacramento or San Francisco who don't want to go all the way to Vegas or want to go somewhere less glitzy.
> Why would
> anybody go there instead of Vegas unless they r
> counting or on business or a local?
Good question. If you're looking for a cover story, you could say you're on a ski trip, or you could just claim to be a local. But unless you're already nearby, I imagine you have better options.
Reno is the one of the biggest casino destinations (it used to be the biggest) so there are no shortage of people there to gamble, There are probably more casinos in Reno-Sparks than any town outside of Vegas although many of the casinos are small and apparently Tunica is now a bigger destination. There are shows, neon, strippers - everything you would expect in a downmarket version of Las Vegas. But unlike Vegas, almost everyone comes primarily to gamble although the city is trying to sell itself as an "adventure destination" with a new white water paddling park on the Truckee and lots of skiing and mountain biking nearby.
Why do people go? Easy. Cheaper hotels, lower table limits, and cheaper buffets than you can find on the strip or downtown Vegas. You will find lots of low rollers who will only play single deck even though an increasing amount are willing to play 6:5. No problem fitting in. No need to pretend you are a local or a truck driver. Almost everyone you see in a casino is there to gamble and they come from all over the Western US and Canada. It must be one of the biggest bus tour destinations in the US.
There are legal brothels closer to Reno than Vegas...a decent reason/cover story for single guys. ;-)
> Reno is the one of the biggest casino destinations (it
> used to be the biggest) so there are no shortage of
> people there to gamble, There are probably more
> casinos in Reno-Sparks than any town outside of Vegas
> although many of the casinos are small and apparently
> Tunica is now a bigger destination. There are shows,
> neon, strippers - everything you would expect in a
> downmarket version of Las Vegas. But unlike Vegas,
> almost everyone comes primarily to gamble although the
> city is trying to sell itself as an "adventure
> destination" with a new white water paddling park
> on the Truckee and lots of skiing and mountain biking
> nearby.
> Why do people go? Easy. Cheaper hotels, lower table
> limits, and cheaper buffets than you can find on the
> strip or downtown Vegas. You will find lots of low
> rollers who will only play single deck even though an
> increasing amount are willing to play 6:5. No problem
> fitting in. No need to pretend you are a local or a
> truck driver. Almost everyone you see in a casino is
> there to gamble and they come from all over the
> Western US and Canada. It must be one of the biggest
> bus tour destinations in the US.
> There are legal brothels closer to Reno than Vegas...a
> decent reason/cover story for single guys. ;-) how r the hookers? I'll just say that I am looking to open one... I was under the impression that reno was a dump and going out of business. I guess I'll have to see for myself. If the games are mid shoe I don't see why I couldn't just sit out - hands and play + only after the first hand.
>If the games are mid shoe I don't see why I couldn't just sit out - hands and play + only after the first hand.
Sure you could .. until they tossed you out. Reno isn't Atlantic City.
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