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    sukces
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    sukces: which game is better?

    I have the choise to play two games. One game is: 6D ENHC DA2 DAS sp3 ES10,A. Another game is 6D ENHC DA2 DAS sp3 U/O. Which game I would be better of to play considering the same conditions, the same spread and penetration? Intuitivly I prefer to play the second game (very few and small downfalls), but maybe I just hit the good streak, I am not sure. For the first game I use AOII and for the second Snyder's U/O count.One more question. In the first game they recently allowed side bet: If the dealer busts the casino pays 2:1, and if the dealer has the blackjack the casino pays 15:1. Is there any way to exploit those side bets? Maybe you can direct me to any sources where I can find some information about it, or just maybe it is not worth to bother? I would appreciate the answer very much. Thank you.

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    Ikipiros
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    Ikipiros: Side Bet

    Are you sure about the rules of the side bet.
    Or are these 2 different side bets, one side bet for busting and one side bet for the BJ.

    If it is both rules on the same side bet, then count the money, the advantage is obcene.

    Also, when you say 2:1 you mean you win 2 or win 1.

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    sukces
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    sukces: Re: Side Bet

    > Are you sure about the rules of the side bet.
    > Or are these 2 different side bets, one side bet for
    > busting and one side bet for the BJ.

    > If it is both rules on the same side bet, then count
    > the money, the advantage is obcene.

    > Also, when you say 2:1 you mean you win 2 or win 1.
    Those are two difrent side bets, you can bet that the dealer busts and you get paid 2:1 ( 2:1-this is what it is written on the layout next to the squere where you put your side bet, or you can bet that the dealer has the blackjack and it is written 15:1 next to another squere, where you can put your side bet. I checked the book "Blackjack attack" the part including side bets but I could not find these particulare rules. I am interested in if I wisely use those side bets I will have an advantage at all. To tell you the true I do not know where to look for the rules for those particulare side bets, and this blackjack forum is one of the place I am trying to find out something about it. That casino has another two side bets that I did not mention before. If the dealer has the blackjack in spades and you bet on it, they pay 250:1, and another side bet is you bet that the dealer has the blackjack in the same colour (whatever colour comes out)but I do not remember the payout. I am suprised you do not have these kind of side bets in States. I play in Eastern Europe and I know all the rules are imported from America

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    Ikipiros
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    Ikipiros: Re: Side Bet

    Side Bet - Dealer Busts

    Dealer Busts 28.19% * 2 = 56.38%
    Dealer Not Bust 71.81% * -1= -71.81%
    E(v) = -15.43%
    I do not think is possible to beat this sidebet with any form of counting.
    The prob of dealer busting must be at least 33.33% for the breakeven position.
    ie 33.33% x 2 + 66.67% x -1 = 0%
    Only possibility of having positive E(v) if you know for sure that the dealers upcard is 2-6.

    Side Bet - Dealer BJ
    Dealer BJ 4.75% * 15 = 71.25%
    Dealer no BJ 95.25% * -1 =-95.25%
    E(v) -24%
    This can possibly be beaten by Hi-Low counting at High count levels.
    The prob of BJ must be 1/16= 6.25% to break even.
    From CVDATA, this % of BJ is achieved at TC 6.
    So Bet on this sidebet at TC 7 and above for Hi-Low.

    By the way I am not from US either.

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