winner: What is the best book for Hi-Lo?

[winner]

I have been using KO for a long while now I want to start using Hi-Lo. I feel that it will be better for me to learn because it is a balanced count. What is the main place that people get the Hi-Lo counting system? Which book? Also, just as a side question, what is the best counting system right above Hi-Lo? The easiest one to learn.

[Random Poster]

1) Stanford Wong's "Professional Blackjack" for Hi-Lo

2) Easiest system? Depends what you consider "hard". You can either go for the Hi-Opt I (level 1 balanced with Ace side count) or you can go for the UBZ II (level 2 unbalanced Ace-reckoned). If you are comfortable with a balanced system you can also choose the Zen count (level 2 balanced without Ace-side) or if you're REALLY adventurous, do the level 2 balanced with ace-side (Hi-Opt II or AOII). You can also True-count a level 2-unbalanced with ace-side (a la BRH II). If you're a freak, you can go one better and look into a multi-parameter system.

The choice will depend on whether you feel comfortable having a side-count, tc'ing, and counting by 1's and 2's. Maybe you should even consider learning more index #'s instead of switching systems.

> I have been using KO for a long while now I
> want to start using Hi-Lo. I feel that it
> will be better for me to learn because it is
> a balanced count. What is the main place
> that people get the Hi-Lo counting system?
> Which book? Also, just as a side question,
> what is the best counting system right above
> Hi-Lo? The easiest one to learn.

[SpiderMan]

Get Professional BJ, available here at the RGE catalog. It covers Hi-Lo indices for 1DS17, 1DH17, 4DS17 & 4DH17.

If you use Hi-Lo, start learning the Catch-22 & FAB-4 indices in BJA3.

Probably the best system above the Hi-Lo is the Hi-Opt1, which is available in Humble's "The World's Greatest BJ Book". The complete indices are available at $29.99 CAN through Intl. Gaming. The address is written in the book.

I'm SpiderMan.

[winner]

> Get Professional BJ, available here at the
> RGE catalog. It covers Hi-Lo indices for
> 1DS17, 1DH17, 4DS17 & 4DH17.

> If you use Hi-Lo, start learning the
> Catch-22 & FAB-4 indices in BJA3.

> Probably the best system above the Hi-Lo is
> the Hi-Opt1, which is available in Humble's
> "The World's Greatest BJ Book".
> The complete indices are available at $29.99
> CAN through Intl. Gaming. The address is
> written in the book.

> I'm SpiderMan.

Thanks guys for the response it was very helpful. I have a couple more questions. If I am dedicated enough to learn Hi-Lo inside and out, should I go ahead and learn a system better than Hi-Lo. Out of the ones that you guys mentioned which one would be the best to put the time into for the rewards? Also, if I go with Hi-Lo, where do I get the I18 indexes that I read so much about? Which one of the books mentioned covers these indexes? Thanks.

[Don Schlesinger]

> Thanks guys for the response it was very
> helpful. I have a couple more questions. If
> I am dedicated enough to learn Hi-Lo inside
> and out, should I go ahead and learn a
> system better than Hi-Lo. Out of the ones
> that you guys mentioned which one would be
> the best to put the time into for the
> rewards?

Why not do one thing at a time. Master hi-lo and play it for a while. You may never require anything more powerful. You don't mention the game you play, the stakes, nor how frequently you play. That might matter.

> Also, if I go with Hi-Lo, where do
> I get the I18 indexes that I read so much
> about? Which one of the books mentioned
> covers these indexes? Thanks.

My third edition of Blackjack Attack: Playing the Pros' Way has the full discussion of the "Illustrious 18," including how they were developed, and the indices for all numbers of decks. You may order it right here at RGE.

Don

[winner]

> Why not do one thing at a time. Master hi-lo
> and play it for a while. You may never
> require anything more powerful. You don't
> mention the game you play, the stakes, nor
> how frequently you play. That might matter.

> My third edition of Blackjack Attack:
> Playing the Pros' Way has the full
> discussion of the "Illustrious
> 18," including how they were developed,
> and the indices for all numbers of decks.
> You may order it right here at RGE.

> Don

Thanks Don for the reply. I play mostly 6D shoes and I spread from 1-10. The rules for most of these games are H17 DAS and generally 75% pen. Also, I play a 6D game that has S17 DAS, but it only has about 65%-70% pen. Which one is the best out of these two games? Also, is Hi-Lo a great system for both of these games? What is your opinion or anyone's opinion on these 6D shoes?

[SpiderMan]

In shoe games, betting correlation is the order of the day. The Hi-Lo's .97 BC is sufficient for both of these games. However, in my opinion, you should spread more than 1-10 in shoes.

[Don Schlesinger]

> Thanks Don for the reply. I play mostly 6D
> shoes and I spread from 1-10. The rules for
> most of these games are H17 DAS and
> generally 75% pen. Also, I play a 6D game
> that has S17 DAS, but it only has about
> 65%-70% pen. Which one is the best out of
> these two games? Also, is Hi-Lo a great
> system for both of these games? What is your
> opinion or anyone's opinion on these 6D
> shoes?

The s17 game is slightly better, but if you "play-all," both are really unplayable.

Don

[winner]

> The s17 game is slightly better, but if you
> "play-all," both are really
> unplayable.

> Don

Don, what type of 6D game do you prefer? How much pen is needed to really get the money? Thanks.

[Don Schlesinger]

> Don, what type of 6D game do you prefer? How
> much pen is needed to really get the money?
> Thanks.

Games that are found commonly on the Strip: 6D, 75% pen, s17, das, rsa, ls. House edge is just 0.26% off the top vs. a BS player.

Don